We found a cure for aphantasia everyone, if this is real it needs official studies because aphantasia is a real condition (the inability of imaginining things) that impacts people
I know a guy who has aphantasia and is using AI image generation to actually see what he’s thinking about.
He explained that his imagination is more like an itemized list.
How do people imagine stuff? When people say something like “I can imagine X vividly,” I really can’t relate. When asked to imagine things, I can only have split-second snapshots of the things in my mind. My mind’s eye is more like reading a comic.
no thought process is wrong as far as I know. you don’t need to visually imagine things even to be successful in art, I know at least one artist who doesn’t think visually, they still paint beautifully, their process just involves a lot of references and live models when possible. there’s a lot of creative professionals who use just as much visual references as they do.
For ne it just happens, like blinking, no though needed. I picture a red ball and it is there i see it, i can spin it, i can even move tge camera around. Even the empty space between the ball and wall and there.
I have a similar problem. My apple becomes like 30 different recent apple images I have seen. Like I can try to imagine a Red delicious and at some point I lose focus and it might become a granny Smith and then back to like a honey crisp.
I’ll get snapshots that are blurry, like a momentary glimpse at a developing photograph, then it moves to the next portion. I’ll see shades of apple colors, faded to just the shape, a silhouette and only a concept of depth. I’ll imagine the weight, having thrown them so often. But no. There is no apple.
We don’t get caught up in memories the same way which can make moving on from things emotionally easier. While things can still be traumatic, not reliving them in such detail can be less traumatic.
I wouldn’t say there’s no upside.
We still function just fine, it’s just a different experience.
Phantasia, at least to a certain point, can be trained. During all the constant busing to my college, whenever I couldn’t use my laptop from the person seating on the side of me, imagined things, then tried to create mental images of them.
Another weird thing is, that I found out, my dyspraxia could be made much less worse, almost on par with the average person at least, by using a better pen. Probably in my case it’s a mixture of having a weird skin that makes things hurt that shouldn’t, and people really wanting me to learn dexterity with “ball games” (read: football, played on hot asphalt) as a kid.
In grade school I thought teachers were using a weird metaphor or something when they said close your eyes and picture…. Little did I know, other people actually can do that!
In college, I learned how to see 3D through drafting class. Like someone else posted, I bet you can train yourself to see mental images, with or without AI.
my own experience leads me to believe this isn’t always possible; I’ve tried previously to ‘train’ a visual imagination for years with no results. Combined with finding out that even DMT doesn’t give me visuals, i’m pretty sure it’s impossible for my brain to picture anything.
We found a cure for aphantasia everyone, if this is real it needs official studies because aphantasia is a real condition (the inability of imaginining things) that impacts people
Just listened to this episode about aphantasia yesterday Third eye blind
I know a guy who has aphantasia and is using AI image generation to actually see what he’s thinking about. He explained that his imagination is more like an itemized list.
That’s exactly how my imagination is.
I can imagine an apple
It’s red It’s round It has stem and sticker
I can’t see it at all
How do people imagine stuff? When people say something like “I can imagine X vividly,” I really can’t relate. When asked to imagine things, I can only have split-second snapshots of the things in my mind. My mind’s eye is more like reading a comic.
no thought process is wrong as far as I know. you don’t need to visually imagine things even to be successful in art, I know at least one artist who doesn’t think visually, they still paint beautifully, their process just involves a lot of references and live models when possible. there’s a lot of creative professionals who use just as much visual references as they do.
For ne it just happens, like blinking, no though needed. I picture a red ball and it is there i see it, i can spin it, i can even move tge camera around. Even the empty space between the ball and wall and there.
You’ve just injected a 3d animated scene into my brain and I like it
Maybe you could train yourself to imagine longer passages?
I have a similar problem. My apple becomes like 30 different recent apple images I have seen. Like I can try to imagine a Red delicious and at some point I lose focus and it might become a granny Smith and then back to like a honey crisp.
I’ll get snapshots that are blurry, like a momentary glimpse at a developing photograph, then it moves to the next portion. I’ll see shades of apple colors, faded to just the shape, a silhouette and only a concept of depth. I’ll imagine the weight, having thrown them so often. But no. There is no apple.
How do you know that’s it’s round and red and has a stem and a sticker if you can’t see it?
Because I’ve seen them before?
It’s no different to if I wrote it down
“condition” makes it sound like it’s a problem lol, it’s just a variation of thought
It appears to be a functional lack with no upside its a disability
It doesn’t really have any downsides either so it’s neutral
We don’t get caught up in memories the same way which can make moving on from things emotionally easier. While things can still be traumatic, not reliving them in such detail can be less traumatic.
I wouldn’t say there’s no upside.
We still function just fine, it’s just a different experience.
Good point i will keep in mind this
Aphantasia haver here. Full detail controllable movie in my head sounds cool. I also don’t really care that much, though.
Phantasia, at least to a certain point, can be trained. During all the constant busing to my college, whenever I couldn’t use my laptop from the person seating on the side of me, imagined things, then tried to create mental images of them.
Another weird thing is, that I found out, my dyspraxia could be made much less worse, almost on par with the average person at least, by using a better pen. Probably in my case it’s a mixture of having a weird skin that makes things hurt that shouldn’t, and people really wanting me to learn dexterity with “ball games” (read: football, played on hot asphalt) as a kid.
if that’s true, that would be an interesting development, and help understanding and treating it
Yeah, ngl I was like shoot, do I need to start doing some ai image shit?
I have no idea, really. I don’t even think the post is real. I barely undertand mental images
In grade school I thought teachers were using a weird metaphor or something when they said close your eyes and picture…. Little did I know, other people actually can do that!
In college, I learned how to see 3D through drafting class. Like someone else posted, I bet you can train yourself to see mental images, with or without AI.
my own experience leads me to believe this isn’t always possible; I’ve tried previously to ‘train’ a visual imagination for years with no results. Combined with finding out that even DMT doesn’t give me visuals, i’m pretty sure it’s impossible for my brain to picture anything.
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just like some people (Austin danger Powers included) don’t have an inner monologue.
We need gen-AI to be perfected first, right now its makes humans with 7 fingers and it gives me the heebie jeebies, nah, gotta wait like 10 years
Not really anymore. I mean it cant do backflips but it has been passing tests like will Smith eating soaghetti