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      Your membership in the Democrats cult is more important to you than literally opposing genocide on your dime. If they flipped on abortion tomorrow, you’d be telling “abortion one issue voters” to fuck off too, as long as you get your comfort we should all put our heads in the guillotine and vote for your genocidal party because you insist your concerns are more important than children being starved shredded to pieced.

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        I tell you this is the most overused nonsensical nothing comment I see posted ad nauseam. If you don’t have a point to make then don’t respond.

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          Are those voters responsible for the terrible positions the candidate voluntarily took, which alienated not only their base but also uncommitted voters? No. No they aren’t.

          If you can’t convince most people that you’d do a better job at something than Donald fucking Trump, that’s a ‘you’ problem. Miraculously, Democrats did this three presidential elections in a row, which changes it from “mistake/oversight” territory into “we’re doing this shit on purpose.”

          • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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            If you can’t convince most people that you’d do a better job at something than Donald fucking Trump, that’s a ‘you’ problem

            Lmao. It’s not. Democracy requires informed voters. Americans have shown they’re anything but.

            Have fun blaming the democrats while republicans burn down the country.

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          The phrasing is just bad. Vote them out in the primaries, that’s it. After the primaries you vote against the Republicans.

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            Vote them out in the primaries

            “primaries” like the ones we had last year. “Primaries” like the ones the party successfully argued in court that they didn’t have to run honestly. “Primaries” that the party doesn’t respect the results of when progressives like Mamdani or Fateh win them. “Primaries” that AIPAC bought at least two candidates in last year.

            You’re gloating because you know that primaries are kabuki.

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              Except they aren’t at all. But that’s fine, start a third party and actually win seats in local elections first. Prove a movement can work. Or idk just bitch and moan as Republicans keep winning because you decided to be angry with the Dems and stay home.

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                Except they aren’t at all

                Lie to someone who might buy it. I provided examples, you said “nuh uh” and added more gloating that the party only represents netanyahu and two cheneys.

                Your suggestion to form my own third party to take on Israel’s two parties may as well have been punctuated by laughing like a One Piece villain.

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          Have you done literally anything in the past six months?

          Or did you do literally only one thing, vote one time, and now you think you’re absolved of all responsibility?

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              Labor stoppages, public disruptions, organized boycotts, cop watch, publish and distribute propaganda, and agitation for further actions. I can understand not wanting to talk about some stuff on the internet for opsec, but chances are they’re doing literally nothing. Just sitting at home, waiting for the next election that might never come.

              Voting is over. It’s time to do something else.

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        Tankies are anyone who prioritizes ending material support for genocide? Call me a tankie if it makes you feel better, then. The thing is, it’s not my “single issue”, but it is at the top of the fucking list, yes. The bar literally doesn’t get any lower.

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          I’m sure Gaza appreciates the moral superiority instead of votes that can prevent an actual genocidal president. But you do you.

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            Well, the former US ambassador to Israel recently declared in an interview that killing children is okay, because they are Hamas children and Israel said so.

            Also the former Biden team admitted that they deliberately lied about Israel sabotaging any ceasefire attempt and instead lying blamed it on Hamas, all while providing further arms shipments, without which the Genocide would have been over within a few weeks.

            They justified this with the claim that it wouldn’t have helped Israel, so the goal was always clear. The Democratic presidency under Biden was in full support of the genocide. Unlike Trump they merely cared about creating a slight appearance otherwise, but they have been salivating at the continued slaughter of women and children, the ethnic cleansing, the deliberate starvation, the rape and torture of Palestinians taken hostage by Israel.

            By punishing them for supporting Genocide at least there was a chance that the party would reform as it identifies Genocide as a loosing issue. However now we see that supporting Genocide is more important to them even than preventing Trumps full takeover. This only leads to one conclusion. They are not only pro Genocide, they are also pro Fascist dictatorship.

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              Doesn’t change the fact that support of Trump through non voting or protest voting ensured their extinction.

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            You have no moral. Palestinians want a president that will stop sending billions to israel and provide diplomatic cover

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              Palestinians should want a lot of things. Peace. No Hamas. Israel not participating in genocide. Not trying cause uprisings in Lebanon and Egypt.

              Minor things.

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                They want to end of occupation , an army to defend itself against both hamas and future israeli attemps to take over all their land.

                Things that you refuse to acknowledge that both usa cults refuse to grant palestinians their self determination and right to self defence since thw terrorist state creation

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                  You ignored the Egypt and Lebanon part. Or the pro Palestinians sabotaging Ukrainian trucks or recently the pro Palestinians causing the cancellation of an LGBTQ event in Canada.

                  Yeah. Not helping support here.

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                    That justify supporting a genocidal state for you and deflection democrats complicity? You think all anti palestine occupation hate ukranians? You don’t think there is many pro israel ukranians just like there is many pro palestine ukraniains an vice versa? We can all cherry pick stuffs like ukraine absorbing some neo nazis?

                    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

                    Yet i would never justify russian invasion and genocide unlike you deflecting from israel final solution and usa both parties complicity

                    I also always call out arab countries complicity with israel in posts related to arabs countries involvment in the middle east