[edit: I thank everyone for their comments and time. A lot of very interesting opinions and view points. Unfortunately also a lot of things that went away from the actual answer. So I’m thinking maybe this thread can be closed without deleting it?]

The more I hear people talk about it who aren’t cis-het men, the more I hear criticism about the concept. But so far, I’ve only heard people say that it’s stupid, that it’s not a thing, that it’s men’s own fault etc. But I’ve yet to understand where that criticism comes from. I don’t want to start a discussion on whether or not it’s real or not. I just want to understand where the critics are coming from.

    • BeeegScaaawyCripple@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      25 days ago

      so by the same logic that you judge all these lonely men are at fault for being lonely, it’s your fault for consistently seeking out the ones with massive red flags.

    • Mighty@lemmy.worldOP
      102·
      25 days ago

      Interesting. I’m not sure if that really answers my question. That is you saying it’s their fault for being lonely, yes? And yes, I agree, we men should definitely educate ourselves and better ourselves wherever possible. But would that mean that there’s no systemic issue and it’s “just” men being dumb?