Sure this little subset of the internet is aware that LLMs arent going to cut the mustard. But the general population isn’t, and that’s the problem. Companies are forcing LLMs on staff and customers alike. Someone suggesting that this is being managed appropriately and sustainably is either ill-informed, or intentionally misleading people.
Meh all of it is very unconvincing. The energy use is quite tiny relative to everything else and in general I dont think energy a problem we should be solving with usage reduction. We can have more than enough green energy if we want to.
It literally is not. If you’re talking about interacting with trained models, then sure but that’s a different thing altogether. That’s not what the energy use problem is.
Meh all of it is very unconvincing.
Maybe you haven’t taken the time to read the articles. Or perhaps climate, ethics, and economic disaster don’t mean very much to you. Which - maybe that’s the case, but you also can’t say they’re not huge problems. You can say “i don’t care” but that’s different than “these facts aren’t real.”
Source? Because all datacenter and compute never even reached double digit percentages of our overal energy use. Thats including crypto currency too. To me thats not a serious number to start panicking yet, it’s energy use as any other and we can totally handle it.
You seem to be missing the point that source of energy is what’s creating the problem not the energy use itself. We’ll never need less energy and to assume that the markets would ever just step back here is invredibly childish. You’re gonna whine about every new invention that uses electricity now?
Hiding datacenter energy use is much harder than anything else
What? Humanity has been able to measure electricity usage since the 19th century. Why do you think we couldn’t do it with tech based usage?
If I understand correctly, you are saying we can both confirm LLM datacenters are using green energy, despite there being no evidence of new green energy sources, and that we’re unable to track what energy they use, despite humanities relatively long history of measuring electric usage.
“yet this is what breaks this person’s brain?”.
“AI fears are so overblown”.
“some people are really overreacting”.
Sure this little subset of the internet is aware that LLMs arent going to cut the mustard. But the general population isn’t, and that’s the problem. Companies are forcing LLMs on staff and customers alike. Someone suggesting that this is being managed appropriately and sustainably is either ill-informed, or intentionally misleading people.
Meh all of it is very unconvincing. The energy use is quite tiny relative to everything else and in general I dont think energy a problem we should be solving with usage reduction. We can have more than enough green energy if we want to.
It literally is not. If you’re talking about interacting with trained models, then sure but that’s a different thing altogether. That’s not what the energy use problem is.
Maybe you haven’t taken the time to read the articles. Or perhaps climate, ethics, and economic disaster don’t mean very much to you. Which - maybe that’s the case, but you also can’t say they’re not huge problems. You can say “i don’t care” but that’s different than “these facts aren’t real.”
Source? Because all datacenter and compute never even reached double digit percentages of our overal energy use. Thats including crypto currency too. To me thats not a serious number to start panicking yet, it’s energy use as any other and we can totally handle it.
You seem to be missing the point that source of energy is what’s creating the problem not the energy use itself. We’ll never need less energy and to assume that the markets would ever just step back here is invredibly childish. You’re gonna whine about every new invention that uses electricity now?
Whatever you have to tell yourself
facts tend to be unconvincing when you consider fantasies like “LLMs are being powered by green energy” a reality.
Why? Hiding datacenter energy use is much harder than anything else so it’s much easier to regulate.
What? Humanity has been able to measure electricity usage since the 19th century. Why do you think we couldn’t do it with tech based usage?
If I understand correctly, you are saying we can both confirm LLM datacenters are using green energy, despite there being no evidence of new green energy sources, and that we’re unable to track what energy they use, despite humanities relatively long history of measuring electric usage.
Dont even know where to start educating you if you think we can just “measure electricity” like it’s a single pipe under your sink
https://edisontechcenter.org/Meters.html
It’s funny that you think you have the capacity to educate anyone when you’re so blatantly misinformed.
Lmao the fact that you think all energy is metered electricity is just peak Dunning Kruger. Get blocked troll.
Ah so you think datacenters aren’t metered. What an interesting existence you live in.
P.s: it’s Krueger. Not kruger