I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I’ll leave it at cosmic horror warning.

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I’m not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don’t know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can’t rule out the possibility way)

So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I’m writing this I realized that’s nothing to fear).

I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it’s okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).

Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.

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      Can you prove that memory is a reliable way to determine reality without referencing memory?

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        I am aware. I personally think it’s a load of religious bull, but don’t directly want to offend anyone wanting to believe it.

        I also know repatriation (I hope that’s the correctly translated term) which is proven to be planted suggested memories through that very process scientifically as far as I am aware at the current state of science.

        I do love reading (eg the game is life) playing with these theories, though!

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            Fair request.

            I did some research into the topic a year ago due to my situation and came to the stated conclusion.

            So I tried to find some scientific research again right now (in a limited time frame of like 10 to 20 minutes, on my mobile).

            I first tried in English bot got a lot of hits regarding companies and since my native language is not English I don’t know what that word means in relation to companies and also didn’t want to waste time on that.

            So I tried it in German and was flooded by hits which offer that ad a service and as such of course tell you how successful it is. Obviously.

            I was not able to find the research I remember within that time, I am sorry.

            However in any case you’d be free to believe whatever anyway.

            The point of the information I read was however that people coming out of the procedure (sometimes, possibly also accidentally) get memories planted in a well known psychological way and it is a highly untrustworthy procedure.

            So that’s why I didn’t do it. I have enough to cope with and don’t need additional fictional issues added to that 😁

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      9 days ago

      Why would you think that being born is the same as dying?

      (hint: it isn’t the same at all)

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        Not existing before and after is technically the same, please provide any scientific article of it being otherwise, I’m open to that.

        One could argue even the development arc of humans is backwards towards the end. The process of dying is not the same as being born, if you mean that.

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            Irrelevant to the case, but as it scientist concepts, research, analysis, deduction and proof is a standard part of my work.

            Its typical however to instead answer with proof for a hypothesis to try to slander the opponent, especially nowadays. So there you go.

            Luckily I do this conversation for fun and trying to learn more, since this is the way as humans we can grow.

            So you tell me. What’s your experience from your last death.