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My pick would be The Simpsons. I have watched it a lot growing up, but only at the beginning of this year did I do a full 35 season binge watch.
And any opinion you find online boils down to classic Simpsons was great, modern Simpsons sucks.
And I disagree with this premise. Because fundamentally The Simpsons Isn’t one show, it’s actually three. You have the classic era, then the transitional era, and the modern era. and it is that transitional era where I think the show stumbled the most.
Nowadays, though, I think the show is pretty good. Sure, the classic era might have been better on average, but I think it managed to pull itself out of the slump. And I still laugh at jokes even in the worst episodes.
How I Met Your Mother
I get it - the timing of the last season and its pacing really shows the writers had to deal with a near-cancellation, and then getting a year to fill with 2 eps and sub-plots and clip-shows and really slow development.
But I still love it. NPH was a complete riot when all we saw of him since Before was this, and H&KgtWC , and I think he enjoyed the role of the incorrigible cad a bit too much; but the over-the-top stuff is still funny. The other actors were tremendous, and I think they enjoyed their roles most of the time too.
And my favourite character is the City itself. I miss it, and they dressed and staged it mostly lovingly and it was wonderful.
I’ll watch it a few more times over, but I need a scorecard showing me the forward-references to look out for.
HIMYM was a show that gave me comfort as an awkward kid in a tiny rural hateful town. No it wasn’t the best, but you’re spot on about the city. It was the last member of the gang. Now I moved to a city and love it, in no small part to the show
I know the ending is bad, but Game of Thrones was like the peak of fantasy TV for a good chunk of its run, and now I hear people actively recommending against watching it. The ending doesn’t stop people from enjoying all the good bits!
I loved pretty much everything until season 8 which is just… Weird. All of the sudden it’s only 6 episodes for the season? Then one episode is just a black screen with sounds where putting the TV brightness at 100 still only shows you shadows at best. The battle tactics were a clown show, the final boss fight was just the little murder girl doing her thing for a second. It suuuucked.
Then the next episode, Daenerys apparently forgot that there were enemies aroud, and because of that one of her dragons got sniped at a multi kilometer distance, high up in the air by what I can only presume was a battery of patriot anti air missile system for its accuracy.
Then the spy master who always weaves webs of treatchery and spying just plainly suggest a revolt because that’s how we roll now?
Then Daenerys madness suddenly kicks in for no reason and she psycho murders half the town by burning them all and then goes full Nazi.
It was so so so obvious that the show runners didn’t give a shit anymore and wanted to do their new shiny little Star Wars project. Good that they lost that too.
Fuck DnD
I recently did another re-watch and I found that I grew bored of it in Season 4.
Anyone asks me I tell them to watch the first three seasons and quit.
I just think it’s ironic that it came to mirror the books in that you can enjoy absolutely top-notch storytelling for a while and then can’t enjoy the ending.
The ending is definitely not “top notch story telling”, though.
I wouldn’t recommend against people watching it, but I would caution them because it’s a big time commitment for the ending you get.
I wouldn’t tell people not to watch it, but I sure as shit can’t rewatch it without getting frustrated. So many amazing plot points that mean nothing, for no reason
My wife had a bigger reaction to the show getting progressively worse because she felt wronged by the fact they “made her wait A WHOLE YEAR to watch garbage”, lol. It might add to the fans’ frustration and bad blood. I binged it like 2-3 years ago, and I truly enjoyed it all the way til the end of season 5. Most shows don’t have a good pilot, I can’t hate one with 5 great seasons, but again I didn’t have to wait for it. 🤷
For a new viewer, it’s worth watching. As someone who’s seen the end, literally the first scene of S1E1 sets up a huge mystery that never ever gets resolved
It took me many years but I’ve since gone back and done a rewatch. The first few seasons really are absolutely fantastic. Knowing that the ending sucks still hurts, but at least this time I know it will suck. It softens the blow.
House of the Dragon season 1 was great, season 2 had an abrupt ending but was still great.
I’m looking forward to A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.
It’s still a great world.
You really found HoD s2 to be great? I found the whole thing to be nothing but stall and delay.
Beavis and Butthead. It’s a great show now. It was a great show then.
My wife insists she hates it but sometimes I can hear her giggling when she hears it from a room over.
Even people who proclaim that they hate it when they secretly don’t?
My wife never got the chance to watch it when she was younger. It’s now one of her favorite shows. It’s a lot smarter than people give it credit for.
Although Beavis and Butthead are dumber than I remembered. Still a great show, though. lol
Big Bang Theory.
At worst, it’s just kinda mid. I think a lot people just take too much shit personally because a lot of the haters act like the character of Sheldon is making fun of them personally.
I’m one of those guys that loved tbbt. It’s just simple comedy, don’t take it too seriously, don’t take it too personal
oh yea, there was a sub 2xchromosome, some women thought it was a mysogynistic show based on how they dumbed the female actors overtime.
I actually don’t think it gets enough hate.
I have nothing personal against the premise of some nerd saying things “too smart” for the social context. That’s just Frasier and I liked Frasier.
The jokes just weren’t funny.
I thought they were
Agreed. It’s not hard to see why people dislike it if they feel a part of the many sub-cultures portrayed. Who should they relate to? Lenard, who runs around after a mostly disinterested Penny, fixing stuff for her in order to get enough holes punched in his good guy card and can’t talk to women? Rajesh, who literally can’t talk when women are present? Old mate sex pest with the Beatles hair cut who we’re pretty much introduced to by him using an RC car to record up Penny’s skirt and has the weird relationship with his nasally, constantly screaming mom? AKA Mr don’t leave your drink unattended within an kilometre of me. All of which relocate a spy satellite to spy on naked women? Sheldon is obnoxious, the rest are just straight up trope laden creeps.
I’ve never understood it appealing to the culture it portrays as it seems to be relentlessly mocking it with low hanging stereotypes.
Honestly, if it didn’t have a laugh track, it’d be a much better show.
Ironically, Young Sheldon was a better show.
I never considered it but it explains Redditors’ deep hatred for the show, lol. It’s not like it’s the only trash show that’s also popular…
I thought ‘Man Vs Bee’ was hilarious and on-par with some of Rowan Atkinson’s earlier physical comedy. It was more controversial than I expected; quite a large number of people review bombed it online.
I don’t have Netflix anymore, so I’d never heard of this series till reading your comment. If it’s British, then I almost always give it a chance. The best in the world at comedy, imo. Time to download it.
The episodes are super short so altogether it’s essentially a film and very bingeable. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!
“Nu Trek”, ie. Star Trek: Discovery and maybe Strange New Worlds depending on how deranged the person whinging about “Nu Trek” is.
Oh yeah, all nu trek shield just burn in a big fire
Wanna make sci-fi? Go ahead, I’ll wait, all fine
Wanna make shitty sci-fi? Sure, go ahead. I won’t watch it but you do you
Wanna take a 50 year old franchise, with endless amounts of information and events to adhere to, a show with a certain mind set… You wanna take that, and change everything about it, change the feel good into a gritty everything sucks and everyone is horrible, change the nicely well lit and shot Show to something with only flashy dutch angles and flares and glares? Wanna change the interesting gripping stories into dull pew pew we all are traumatized now? Wanna make your show using people who either don’t know or hate the show? Wanna make that show and use it’s popularity for your own political bullshit messages?
Yeah, please don’t?
Watch the Orville instead. Anyone that loved TNG and DS9 will see within two episodes that this show is he teal successor to star Trek, made by people who love trek.
Disc didn’t grab me, SNW started off solid but man, now it just seems to be shitpost eps. Lower decks had more coherency than the last two s3 offerings.
It’s actually all garbage but at least the movies were better than whatever Marvel slop is being churned out these days. It’s just a gigantic drop in quantity if you compare it to the previous shows that were written by literate folks with at least secondary education and not whatever free LLMs that Kurtzman guy and friends are using to write their shows, lol.
I don’t even care because I understand IPs and titles can be easily bought, I never expected any quality just because the shows share the same name. 🤷
Discovery had some good episodes, but a lot of the writing was terrible, like the season with the ship that had all knowledge that they couldn’t get away from, they wrote themselves into a corner and then the resolution was nonsense
they decided the future was escape from the bad writing, of the klingons, cloaking tech, and instantaneous teleportation, they toned down the spore drive teleportation by the end because it was getting too much negative attention .
Discovery is fine, but it is the worst of the Star Trek series. It’s not bottom of the barrel TV, but it’s weak. It does some fun things, but it has a lot of episodes that just drag on.
That being said Strange New Worlds is excellent. It does have some weak episodes but when it’s great, it’s fantastic.
STD, AND picard were pretty bad, but snw is only so-so, lower decks is much better than the 3 though. prodigy might have more praise if it lasted longer as a series.
Totally agree. Discovery definitely had some fun cool things, especially in the early seasons. Unfortunately I think it got kind of sanctimonious as it progressed and that made a lot of the episodes kind of tedious.
SNW is sooo good, though. Still mad that Lower Decks was cancelled, too.
Discovery is fine, but it is the worst of the Star Trek series
Enterprise exists
The only thing terrible about Enterprise is the opening song. The show itself was competent if a little campy trek. Discovery and Picard are just dramafest crap in comparison.
enterprise couldve continued if not for LES moonves. at least 7 seasons like most trek series.
I said what I said. And no one’s gonna bend or break me.
I have faith of the heart that people will come around to Enterprise.
Can’t take the sky from me
Personally, I hated Picard a lot more than Enterprise. The first season was fine. But it was all kind of confusing after that.
OK yeah to be fair I did think Picard was way worse than Enterprise. I watched all of ENT but couldn’t get more than a few episodes into Picard, it was just ehhhhh
picard was wierd bad at the same time, 1st season romulan threat, dropped in the 2nd season, which had borg and potential invasion of time traveling borg, immediately dropped the 3rd season with no explanation until the very last few episodes, and the wierd changeling arc?. this is all kurtzman’s doing for all 3 seasons.
Because kurtzmann just cherry picks the high notes and stuffs them in devoid of context
Picard gets a pass because season 3 was a love letter to 90s Trek. It’s a 10 episode reunion episode.
I had fun with season 2. If you look at it as a mirror universe or holodeck program going wild, it’s fun. But also it’s sorta just a weird fanfic of a season.
Season 1 exists.
Maybe Picard is worse than Discovery, but Discovery also wasted a lot more of my time, but also Discovery gave us Strange New Worlds.
The biggest disappointment of Enterprise is that after all the 90s Trek build up, we go back to the start of the Trek timeline. We build a fun new Next Generation era and then just drop it for the Beginning Generation.
The big bang theory. I thought it was fine. Not great or anything, but not bad either. But my impression is that its not very popular in these circles.
Big bang was the original brain rot. A pretend smart people show geared for absolute dumb dumbs.
Dragon Ball Super. People took a cherry-picked zoomed-in screenshot of Goku from like episode 4 or whatever and it’s still memed even today, as if there aren’t parts of the show that have outstanding animation.
Hm, have a few based on how popular they were. Kickstart discussion!
Hot take - the Office is too hated now. I think that it’s fair to hate it now in comparison to many other (honestly better) shows, but forget what TV was like in the 90s and 00s. No committal sitcoms in the 4-camera layout, taking no risks, with lame-ass jokes. The office is not perfect - but it definitely broke the mold and kickstarted the modern mockumentary style of show. Thanks to it we got shows like Parks and Rec and 30 rock, none of which would have been approved without the Office first.
New Girl - Honestly, it’s a fun show. No I wouldn’t expect it to win any Emmys, and like all sitcoms it’s main characters are all psycopath/narcissists, but it’s fun. Zooey Deschanel does a great job, she’s over the top like she is in everything but I never found it too annoying, and she’s mellowed by a great ensemble cast. The stories are light and the humor gets a chuckle out out of me
and what the hell rule of 3s. I’ll say NCIS - hated by our age demographic - but hey what the hell else would we watch when our older family members were visiting?
Friends. Yuck.
So you don’t think it was over hated?
Twilight: The Series
The original? Was great
The reimagined show? It was every episode going on some “white men bad!”, “White men evil!”, “white men horrible!” trope and it wore razor thin after thee first episode already
for fangirls of the show.
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