Yea I’m taking this with a massive handful of salt. I was just in Beijing and queer couples were just walking around openly being couples. Also the only time in my life I was comfortable around police they were very much just average community members with public service jobs.
If this is true it’s probably some dumbass with brainworms, but I’m not taking the pro genocide propaganda rag that is the NY Crimes at their word.
According to 6th tone this is something that happens. The production, dissemination and sale of “sexual, pornographic and obscene materials” is illegal in China and this is disproportionately heavily enforced against people writing gay erotic fiction.
In 2018 a popular online gay erotica author was sentenced to 10 years imprisonment for “producing pornographic and obscene materials”, in 2015 another was sentenced to 3 years imprisonment
Its not just ‘they wrote porn’, they did so and distributed it online, for money. Of this was some passion project, a general freedom of expression, they could be distributing it anonymously and freely. I’m doubtful anyone’s being arrested for their homebrew erotica - you’ll never take me alive
we’re being coerced into arguing semantics about the rights of petit bourgeois ‘artists’
Yeah all the queer Chinese people I’ve talked to about this have told me the only issues they’ve had is with their family members being homophobic about them specifically. Many people I’ve talked to didn’t have this experience because their parents were fine with it, so it’s not everyone’s experience, but it does seem to be the most common manifestation of homophobia, directly from family to the person being discriminated against.
Apparently there is even some conversion therapy type outfits that parents put their kids in
You’re right it’s incredibly safe to be openly gay in the streets of ‘western’ cities, but speak to ‘western’ queer people about how their families reacted to them coming out and you’ll see that conservative attitudes are still very prevalent, especially amongst older people.
😇 lol sorry, tbh my parents are coming around but its been a decade of work, forcing myself to family events and continuing to be myself
Ya, even beyond the NYT’s penchant for bullshit, the Florida Man concept should have us all remembering how easy it is for media to present narratives by reframing data.
Yea I’m taking this with a massive handful of salt. I was just in Beijing and queer couples were just walking around openly being couples. Also the only time in my life I was comfortable around police they were very much just average community members with public service jobs.
If this is true it’s probably some dumbass with brainworms, but I’m not taking the pro genocide propaganda rag that is the NY Crimes at their word.
According to 6th tone this is something that happens. The production, dissemination and sale of “sexual, pornographic and obscene materials” is illegal in China and this is disproportionately heavily enforced against people writing gay erotic fiction.
In 2018 a popular online gay erotica author was sentenced to 10 years imprisonment for “producing pornographic and obscene materials”, in 2015 another was sentenced to 3 years imprisonment
Yea ok that’s dumb, unless it’s CSA material people don’t deserve to be imprisoned because they made or wrote porn.
Its not just ‘they wrote porn’, they did so and distributed it online, for money. Of this was some passion project, a general freedom of expression, they could be distributing it anonymously and freely. I’m doubtful anyone’s being arrested for their homebrew erotica - you’ll never take me alive
we’re being coerced into arguing semantics about the rights of petit bourgeois ‘artists’
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Yeah all the queer Chinese people I’ve talked to about this have told me the only issues they’ve had is with their family members being homophobic about them specifically. Many people I’ve talked to didn’t have this experience because their parents were fine with it, so it’s not everyone’s experience, but it does seem to be the most common manifestation of homophobia, directly from family to the person being discriminated against.
Apparently there is even some conversion therapy type outfits that parents put their kids in
😇 lol sorry, tbh my parents are coming around but its been a decade of work, forcing myself to family events and continuing to be myself
Ya, even beyond the NYT’s penchant for bullshit, the Florida Man concept should have us all remembering how easy it is for media to present narratives by reframing data.