• Oniononon@sopuli.xyz
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    5 hours ago

    Humans need nutrition and vitamins found in meat. Without them they get health issues or die. When lab grown meats are available, real meats become optional.

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        5 hours ago

        There’s multiples more of omnivores who don’t have health issues either.

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              5 hours ago

              You say:

              Humans need nutrition and vitamins found in meat. Without them they get health issues or die.

              I reply that billions of vegetarians exist without health issues, proving that humans don’t need nutrition and vitamins found in meat.

              You reply that many omnivores exist without issues as well, which is a non-sequitur. Why was that your reply?

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                What they mean to say is that there’s only one healthy diet, and since more of the healthy people are carnists, the vegetarians are doing it wrong.

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      No, that’s a myth. There is actually no need for consuming animals. We owe the perpetuation of this myth by the meat industry

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      We need things that can be found in meat. With some effort, you can obtain them from alternative sources.

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        5 hours ago

        Yes.

        “with some effort”. Eating food humans are meant to eat in a balanced and healthy manner is already borderline impossible for everyone. Eating only vegetarian is more akin to a full time hobby than what food is to most people: fuel.

        People don’t even give a shit about cars that they drive around and spend insane amount of money on each decade. I just don’t see most people just switching to vegetarianism without a survival need. Plant based foods are just stupid expensive to boot outside of rice and potatoes.

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          Yeah, it’s harder for sure. But what I’m saying is that not everyone needs to kill to eat-- if you can afford it and have some time to plan meals, it isn’t a “necessary evil”. I’d argue it’s still more moral to kill for food than for entertainment, of course.

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          Wow, I must be doing it wrong then. I learned basic combinations and a variety of recipes. No different from when I learned to cook with meat.

          I’m not saying that it’s for everyone. I personally still eat fish from time to time. But it definitely isnt a full time hobby

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            Yea, it’s easier than some people try to say it is. It’s a matter of habit and produce availability, which varies depending on your location