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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65102495
The Israeli government’s actions in Gaza “can no longer be justified,” said German Chancellor Friedrich Merz on Monday, signalling a profound shift in tone from one of Europe’s traditionally most staunch supporters of Israel.
Getting the hostages back?
Many Israelis actually marched against the war plans right from the start, because they knew it wasn’t about hostages.
I agree, getting the hostages back is essential to peace. I’m sure that was not the point you were trying to make, however.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_war_hostage_crisis
Sounds like a good plan to me.
Israel also applies systemic rape and torture to the ‘prisoners,’ many are arrested arbitrarily via administrative detention. This includes hundreds of children as well
Israel has also repeatedly stated that returning the hostages are secondary to ‘eliminating Hamas’ aka the full ethnic cleansing of Gaza. On the other hand, Hamas has proposed a full prisoner exchange and peace resolution since Oct 8th, along with agreeing to the UN proposal that passed
Is there a source for that?
Yes
Palestinians denied civil rights (HRW) including Military Court (B’TSelem)
Palestinian Prisoners in Israel (wiki)
Children are jailed and abused in Israeli prisons (Save The Children)
Stripped, beaten and blindfolded: new research reveals ongoing violence and abuse of Palestinian children detained by Israeli military - (Save The Children)
Torture and Abuse in Interrogations (B’TSelem)
Thousands of Palestinians are held without charge under Israeli detention policy (NPR)
Urgently investigate inhumane treatment and enforced disappearance of Palestinians detainees from Gaza (Amnesty)
Shocking testimony: Torture in Israeli prisons, “sexual assaults even using dogs"
Why raping Palestinians is legitimate Israeli military practice
'Everything is legitimate’: Israeli leaders defend soldiers accused of rape
Extent of systematic torture, atrocities endured by Palestinians in Israeli prisons is shocking
Israel/OPT: Horrifying cases of torture and degrading treatment of Palestinian detainees amid spike in arbitrary arrests (Amnesty)
UN Report Details Vast, Systemic Torture of Palestinians in Israeli Detention
B’TSelem Welcome to Hell
Thanks. So, to me, from the sources you linked, it seems “systemic abuses/torture” is justifiable claim. “Systemic rape” seems like a claim that might be over the line — even as raping prisoners is apparently accepted among certain strata of Israeli society. /f
Did you really just make that claim without going though the actual reporting? That’s absolutely disgusting. Even the majority of children detained and held in these torture prisons experience sexual assault.
Who cares? And what part of the Israeli government’s actions tells you they care at all whether their hostages live or die?
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