• deaf_fish@lemm.ee
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    6 hours ago

    Yes, this is what I mean. I am fine with they/them. I don’t need to know anyone’s specific pronouns or gender.

    But if no one needs to know anyone’s specific pronouns or gender, then why have it as a concept other than as a niche topic of discussion?

    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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      2 hours ago

      It’s not irrelevant to everyone. We have a phrase that allows you to omit them, but that doesn’t mean that everyone wants to do that.

      Additionally, having the concept is needed for people to talk about their experiences and figure stuff out.
      Their need to describe themselves in conversations that don’t involve you is perfectly sufficient reason to have the words.

      “Confuses you” is not a good enough reason to invalidate a core part of people’s identity, particularly when it may have been hard for them to get things figured out.

      It’s important to remember that gender is irrelevant, but only if it’s someone else’s. It can be aggravating to be told that something you worked hard to figure out doesn’t matter when it very much matters to you.

      • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        14 minutes ago

        You are kind of confusing a systemic critique with some kind of personal attack against individual people.

        From what seems like a decent enough article on Gender Abolitionism:

        Rather, any conception of gender would arise from within, and be part of one’s self-identity, rather than a tool used by society to prescribe a role or identity.

        That “prescribe a role or identity” is why it’s useful to get rid of. It leaves people with more freedom to form their identities, not less.

        It can be aggravating to be told that something you worked hard to figure out doesn’t matter

        I very much like the gender identity that I have; there’s nothing wrong with that.