Activists say the reason for this is that they do not have the same juice within the Republican party as they do among Democrats, and have little ability to influence Trump’s policy approach. So they continue to focus on the party where their influence remains.

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    21 hours ago

    We’d get an informed public if people had enough time, material security, and agency to get involved in politics.

    They are supposed to answer to us. Therefore it is our failing that they do not. We cannot expect them to give that sort of Education without fighting for it. And unironically they didn’t.

    This is infuriating.

    I agree. But it is also reality. When Fox news coverage of your protests is largely sterile and neutral. You know you’ve just fucked up. You should immediately start asking yourself what are you missing here. What do you do to adjust. Which most activists couldn’t do. I mean I have no idea if they all honestly thought that somehow Fox News and all these fascist media Outlets echoing their claims were on their side. That they weren’t the Romney to the fascist Obama this time. Please proceed governor, own yourself. Romney is a skeezy little cultish snake. But he wasn’t strictly wrong. Though that didn’t save him. Even if it worked in our favor that one time.

    Don’t make assumptions: I was not an activist in Michigan. I didn’t tell anyone not to vote for Biden/Harris

    If you helped to amplify the one-sided accusations. You share a part in it. It doesn’t matter if you’re in Michigan or not. It doesn’t matter if you were in a red state, or a blue state. If you didn’t then don’t get upset about people pointing out that people who did are responsible.

    In my 50 years on this planet. Those of us who are not fascist have owned ourselves repeatedly over nonsensical Purity tests. Especially when it didn’t matter. Such as this last election. This will just be another one for the list in the history books. If they allow us to keep history books too much longer.

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      21 hours ago

      I can see we’re not going to reach an agreement on how to look at this particular instance. Still, I wish you well and I hope people like you and me can find a way to effectively fight fascism going forward.

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        20 hours ago

        100%. I know that as someone who is somewhat on the spectrum. People sometimes misunderstand or take offense to the way I choose to phrase things. It was never my intent to imply that we shouldn’t criticize Biden or Harris. Simply that the hyper focus on them would be to our detriment as it was. That many people’s honest and sincere intent to help people was hijacked, as it was. Used to get the worst possible person in office.

        The fact that anyone. Not just Palestinians thought that voting for Trump was somehow better than voting for Harris or Biden speaks to a complete and utter failure of messaging. I’d like to think that we would do better in the future. But seeing how we did dukakis, gore, kerry and so many others dirty with our inability to focus or message. I really don’t think it’s going to change. And that if we’re lucky enough to have an election in 2028. That we are going to struggle as hard as ever to keep the fascists out. Regardless of all the damage they’re going to do. But now is definitely the time to start planning and building for it.