A new memo from the Trump administration reveals something shocking: ICE agents have been told they can enter homes without a warrant to arrest migrants, based on little more than suspicion. The Ma…
1 would absolutely apply. I believe this to be a felony, and they’re sure as hell going to use force if they need to. 3 probably also applies to many people. They’d believe they would be willing to use deadly force, especially if they show up with weapons drawn.
If LEOs can say they believe they were in danger when someone isn’t nice enough to them or whatever, surely when armed men come to your door, without a warrant, and force entry, that’s enough to believe they’re going to use deadly force.
It’s almost as if the War on Drugs was being used as a pretense to up state power for years, and now we have police-military kitted out and trained (Cop City) to slaughter protesters in the street.
Interesting. I’m not an expert on the matter by any means, as I’m not even American, but from what I’ve read, ICE agents often dress in plain civilian clothes - sometimes with no identification markers at all - and can now enter your home without a warrant based merely on “suspicion”. Taking all of this into account, it seems like you would have reasonable belief that you’re in danger and should defend yourself.
It varies state by state, and sometimes by municipality.
“According to the memo, agents can break into a home if getting a warrant is “impracticable,” and they don’t need a judge’s approval.”
Here in Oregon:
https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_161.219
"a person is not justified in using deadly physical force upon another person unless the person reasonably believes that the other person is:
(1) Committing or attempting to commit a felony involving the use or threatened imminent use of physical force against a person; or
(2) Committing or attempting to commit a burglary in a dwelling; or
(3) Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force against a person. [1971 c.743 §23]"
1 would absolutely apply. I believe this to be a felony, and they’re sure as hell going to use force if they need to. 3 probably also applies to many people. They’d believe they would be willing to use deadly force, especially if they show up with weapons drawn.
If LEOs can say they believe they were in danger when someone isn’t nice enough to them or whatever, surely when armed men come to your door, without a warrant, and force entry, that’s enough to believe they’re going to use deadly force.
It’s almost as if the War on Drugs was being used as a pretense to up state power for years, and now we have police-military kitted out and trained (Cop City) to slaughter protesters in the street.
Interesting. I’m not an expert on the matter by any means, as I’m not even American, but from what I’ve read, ICE agents often dress in plain civilian clothes - sometimes with no identification markers at all - and can now enter your home without a warrant based merely on “suspicion”. Taking all of this into account, it seems like you would have reasonable belief that you’re in danger and should defend yourself.
Yup. If it’s my house, it falls under #2, my neighbors house would fall under #1.