I have chickens. People refuse to pay $5 a dozen for our pasture eggs. Even though that’s cheaper than any other eggs in the area. I’m also sitting on a dozen goose eggs. A goose egg is three times the size of a chicken egg. They want to pay less than three times the cost of a chicken egg, even though geese only lay during the spring and only lay every other day.
Here in southern california the only eggs I have even seen on shelves are my usual small farmers market eggs, which are now the same price or cheaper than the grocery store. It has been astounding me that the better and now cheaper option is the one not sold out. Humans really are just psychology multiplied.
It takes a full year to hatch them and then wait for them to become soldiers since they are only aggressive in the spring. Ain’tnobodygottimeforthat-meme.gif
no but see it’s about hierarchy. the factory farm is bigger than me, and so I must serve it and obey on its terms. the local farm is just a person. I bet I could take them in a fight. therefore they should serve me and all interactions should be on my terms.
If they wanted to go buy a commercial goose egg that’s how it works. Geese eggs are rare. They take a lot of investment in time to produce. If you can’t recoup the costs then you can’t sell as selling requires time and time is money if you believe that labor should be compensated.
No, that’s not how it works. You’ve provided a chart that shows average prices for a specific point in time. That’s it. They are constantly fluctuating, and the price is based on supply and demand.
You don’t get to charge 3x for an egg just because it’s 3x the size. I mean, you can try, but people will not buy it unless that’s the equilibrium price. There is no rule stating that price must increase by the same amount as the size of the thing. That’s silly.
A thing is worth what people are willing to pay for it. Goose eggs simply aren’t as popular as chicken eggs, therefore the demand is lower. Assuming supply remains stable, that means price goes down.
If you look at the chart there, the equilibrium price is where the supply line and the demand line cross. Assuming supply remains the same, if demand decreases, the equilibrium price will decrease.
If supply increases, and demand decreases, price goes way down.
Yeah, I took econ too. I’m just asking if you have any egg-bird specific experience. If you know about the details of dealing with each kind of bird and the complications that come with the different types. Anyone can econsplain. But do you have industry specific knowledge? Are you successful in this industry? Do you have actionable information that leads to success? Or if are you just repeating highschool level generalities.
There is this idea out there that people shouldn’t take unsolicited advice, especially from people that don’t have any experience in what you are trying to do. So I’m asking the questions to see if you are offering anything of value or are just repeating things without providing that value.
there are ways other than capitalism to support people who do stuff, but im guessing most of these people wouldn’t support you in those ways either, and it’s just a hierarchy issue.
Most people are clueless about the actual costs of eggs. In my area I’m pretty sure most of them think eggs are mass produced in a factory even though cows outnumber people on an average block and they should know how eggs are made but they are too busy avoiding education at every opportunity because that is the will of Daddy Leader. I’m only half joking.
Do the eggs just go to waste then or do you need to eat a lot of extra eggs if you can’t sell them for $5/dozen?
Wouldn’t it make sense to lower the price to what people will pay even if it doesn’t cover the cost of the chickens, but at least reduce the cost of the chickens? If it’s not your main source of income and you have the chickens either way wouldn’t some money be better than no money?
Eggs go to waste. There is no way we can eat them as fast as they come. It’s not really even a factor of price. We could list them as free and even though the stores are sold out we’d still not get rid of them.
Selling eggs is similar to the worst parts of Facebook marketplace. People say they will come and don’t. They show up and the eggs aren’t good enough because you don’t feed them the same exact feed they would if they had chickens. They can only buy if there are at least five dozen available. The eggs aren’t white, or blue, or green, or whatever their kink is.
Egg buyers are the most picky people on earth. We did get lucky last year with one couple that would always take whatever we had. But we don’t actually set a price. We live in poverty. We let anyone that shows up pay whatever they want. These people covered our feed costs but that was about it.
You should set up a company website, an Instagram account, and make a Tiktok video, and label the eggs as Anti-Trump Eggs or Eggs for the People and by the People. Then decorate them with rainbow colours as support for human rights and civil rights.
I have chickens. People refuse to pay $5 a dozen for our pasture eggs. Even though that’s cheaper than any other eggs in the area. I’m also sitting on a dozen goose eggs. A goose egg is three times the size of a chicken egg. They want to pay less than three times the cost of a chicken egg, even though geese only lay during the spring and only lay every other day.
Here in southern california the only eggs I have even seen on shelves are my usual small farmers market eggs, which are now the same price or cheaper than the grocery store. It has been astounding me that the better and now cheaper option is the one not sold out. Humans really are just psychology multiplied.
Keep sitting on those goose eggs, when they hatch and you attack with your goose army they’ll all be sorry.
It takes a full year to hatch them and then wait for them to become soldiers since they are only aggressive in the spring. Ain’tnobodygottimeforthat-meme.gif
This is because people assume that you should do it out of the goodness of your heart. Since you’re not mass producing.
Which is absurd.
If anything they should be willing to pay you a premium for a high quality product produced in far better conditions.
no but see it’s about hierarchy. the factory farm is bigger than me, and so I must serve it and obey on its terms. the local farm is just a person. I bet I could take them in a fight. therefore they should serve me and all interactions should be on my terms.
I wish I knew how to find farmers selling eggs like you. $5 for a dozen is a steal. Do you wash them? Or go European style?
Ikr my husband and I pass a house that sells their fresh eggs for $3 a dz when we visit his parents. I always stop and buy two!
If me neighbor had eggs like that I would buy it as often as they would let me.
That’s not how markets work though…
If they wanted to go buy a commercial goose egg that’s how it works. Geese eggs are rare. They take a lot of investment in time to produce. If you can’t recoup the costs then you can’t sell as selling requires time and time is money if you believe that labor should be compensated.
No, that’s not how it works. You’ve provided a chart that shows average prices for a specific point in time. That’s it. They are constantly fluctuating, and the price is based on supply and demand.
You don’t get to charge 3x for an egg just because it’s 3x the size. I mean, you can try, but people will not buy it unless that’s the equilibrium price. There is no rule stating that price must increase by the same amount as the size of the thing. That’s silly.
A thing is worth what people are willing to pay for it. Goose eggs simply aren’t as popular as chicken eggs, therefore the demand is lower. Assuming supply remains stable, that means price goes down.
How many years have you worked in the egg business?
Buddy, this is econ 100. This applies to nearly every business.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand
If you look at the chart there, the equilibrium price is where the supply line and the demand line cross. Assuming supply remains the same, if demand decreases, the equilibrium price will decrease.
If supply increases, and demand decreases, price goes way down.
Wiki probably explains it better.
Yeah, I took econ too. I’m just asking if you have any egg-bird specific experience. If you know about the details of dealing with each kind of bird and the complications that come with the different types. Anyone can econsplain. But do you have industry specific knowledge? Are you successful in this industry? Do you have actionable information that leads to success? Or if are you just repeating highschool level generalities.
There is this idea out there that people shouldn’t take unsolicited advice, especially from people that don’t have any experience in what you are trying to do. So I’m asking the questions to see if you are offering anything of value or are just repeating things without providing that value.
there are ways other than capitalism to support people who do stuff, but im guessing most of these people wouldn’t support you in those ways either, and it’s just a hierarchy issue.
In the USA? That’s interesting. Any idea why they refuse to pay more (but still less)?
Most people are clueless about the actual costs of eggs. In my area I’m pretty sure most of them think eggs are mass produced in a factory even though cows outnumber people on an average block and they should know how eggs are made but they are too busy avoiding education at every opportunity because that is the will of Daddy Leader. I’m only half joking.
Do the eggs just go to waste then or do you need to eat a lot of extra eggs if you can’t sell them for $5/dozen?
Wouldn’t it make sense to lower the price to what people will pay even if it doesn’t cover the cost of the chickens, but at least reduce the cost of the chickens? If it’s not your main source of income and you have the chickens either way wouldn’t some money be better than no money?
Eggs go to waste. There is no way we can eat them as fast as they come. It’s not really even a factor of price. We could list them as free and even though the stores are sold out we’d still not get rid of them. Selling eggs is similar to the worst parts of Facebook marketplace. People say they will come and don’t. They show up and the eggs aren’t good enough because you don’t feed them the same exact feed they would if they had chickens. They can only buy if there are at least five dozen available. The eggs aren’t white, or blue, or green, or whatever their kink is.
Egg buyers are the most picky people on earth. We did get lucky last year with one couple that would always take whatever we had. But we don’t actually set a price. We live in poverty. We let anyone that shows up pay whatever they want. These people covered our feed costs but that was about it.
You should set up a company website, an Instagram account, and make a Tiktok video, and label the eggs as Anti-Trump Eggs or Eggs for the People and by the People. Then decorate them with rainbow colours as support for human rights and civil rights.
If I did that where I live a mob of MAGA hats would descend on my home within a week, if my neighbor doesn’t shoot me first.