• SquatDingloid@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    Well if you get 50 of your closest friends and show up with rifles when police come to abduct these people in their homes or workplaces then you can prevent it from happening

    Every leftist who doesn’t own a gun should be getting one right now before they start blocking gun sales to non trump loyalists

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      21 hours ago

      Why does everyone go straight to guns and riots? Make a fucken People’s PAC. Play the corpos and elites at their own game. Then if that doesnt work we can get the pitchforks.

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        21 hours ago

        They don’t go straight there, you’re missing decades of innafective protest and peaceful organization. Peaceful protest in the US is only allowed because it’s ineffective.

        “Riots are the voice of the unheard” - MLK

        "Those who make peaceful protest impossible will make violent revolution inevitable " - JFK

        Corpos can only be defeated with violence or having enough money to bankrupt them. There’s no “fixing the system from the inside” when the only way into that system is to be born rich.

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          12 hours ago

          Agreed except that’s definitely not the only way into the system.

          It’s just the only way to have implicit trust from most while on the inside. That’s because (deep breath) who in their right mind would forfeit their birthright to save their lessers?

          Of course I’d like to think I would but will never know. In history, however, we can see that there are always a few individuals who do precisely that.

          Also one way to fix it from the inside goes kaboom.

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          21 hours ago

          I agree with you but it also seems like we haven’t tried since Occupy Wallstreet.

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        20 hours ago

        eh I dunno. If a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight and his computer says you own a gun, isnt there a much higher chance that they will freak out and shoot you for flimsy reasons?

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          20 hours ago

          Guns tend to raise tensions wherever they are at. Cause they’re life delete buttons.

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            19 hours ago

            You aren’t wrong. But being walked all over because you took the high ground instead of responding in kind to someone else raising tensions isn’t the answer. Just ask how that worked out for the Ukrainians who gave up their nukes.

            It takes two to deescalate.

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              19 hours ago

              What went wrong with Occupy? I need to look into that again. Cause you’re just gonna either get put down under the Trump Admin with guns or revolutionary behavior. Not that we aren’t gonna be down to guerilla but it seems like an extremely rough and costly life. Best hope on that is the Purged Generals decide to take America back.

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          19 hours ago

          his computer says you own a gun

          The fuck are you even talking about?!

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            17 hours ago

            you realize cops have computers in their cars right? And they look up your record when they pull you over? Do you even drive?