• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    12 hours ago

    Because committing crimes, including felonies, shouldn’t prevent you from being involved in politics, because you’re still impacted by politics.

    Trump, on the other hand, is an extreme case, because his felonies including trying to stop the transfer of power and do a coup to install himself permanently in power. To me, those are more solid reasons to say he shouldn’t be able to vote again, way moreso than just being “a felon.”

    EDIT: Just want to say, I think others are correct, he should still be allowed to vote, but he should be disallowed from running for office. That’s a more clear and reasonable way to look at it, I think. Thanks folks.

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      7 hours ago

      It’s almost like there should be a law against somebody like him running for office. Oh wait, there already is, and it’s been on the books for 150 years to keep Confederate traitors from holding office. 14th amendment, section 3.

      It’s fucking insane that he’s even on ballots after what he did.

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      12 hours ago

      If felons should be allowed to vote, I don’t think it’s worth carving out an exemption for one particular felon. His vote is a drop in the bucket anyway.

      What’s more important is that this felon should not be allowed to run for office.

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      10 hours ago

      The problem is: if he for some reason is elected, he could then invent reasons why other people should not be able to vote or be elected. Or just claim that there are reasons

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      12 hours ago

      I fully support his being eligible to vote, regardless of past convictions, even if they were for treasonous, seditious behavior.

      He should not be eligible to run for office.

      Convicted felons should be eligible to vote, whether in prison or not, because as you said, anyone still affected by politics should have a voice. This also includes children, undocumented immigrants, and resident aliens. Anyone living here is impacted by the choices of our representatives and should therefore be able to vote for those representatives. Physical presence should be the only requirement.

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      10 hours ago

      Fuck no he shouldnt be allowed to vote nor run for president. This is how we get hitler 2.

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        8 hours ago

        So anyone who’s been found guilty of a crime shouldn’t be allowed to vote even though once they’re out of prison they still pay taxes? Taxation without representation? You don’t think they might be interested in voting for people that would have made it so they might not have committed a crime in the first place or that might push for rehabilitation instead of pure punishment or that might be against private prisons?

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          8 hours ago

          Uh he tried to have a coup. Disqualified! And if you disagree, well you’re Disqualified too.