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  • If you’re a third-party-inclined person who isn’t an idiot or a nutjob, your only real option is to vote for Democrats in general, and ones who support ranked choice voting in particular (because you sure as Hell aren’t gonna get it from the Republicans), and then switch to your third party of choice only after ranked-choice voting is passed.

    The Democrats are going to give you ranked-choice voting so they can potentially lose your vote… Thank god you are not an idiot.





  • Hate begets hate, not calm and rational responses.

    If this changes your opinion on Gaza-Israel; you are a fucking moron.

    If Hamas’ fighters being hateful and commiting war crimes changes your opinion on the conflict; you are a fucking moron.

    If you think no hamas fighter is hateful and has committed atrocities; you are a naive moron.

    If you are wondering why Israel is wrong and Palestinians in the right despite both sides’ soldiers (and “soldiers”) committing war crimes, it’s because Israel created this situation by occupying Palestine and trying to ethnically cleanse it.

    People in the West are way naive and sheltered from the realities of war, in part due to propaganda and how western war efforts have been portrayed as unrealistically “clean” and sanitized.




  • There is no Europe entity. There’s the EU and NATO with Ukraine not being a member in any of them.

    I don’t have any more special connection to Ukrainians than you have because I am European. They are foreigners to me just as they are to you. This goes for most Europeans except maybe for Slavic people.

    The rest support Ukraine for the same reasons the US do. Because Russia is a geopolitical rival. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is immoral but it’s not the actual reason for any support of Ukraine. EU countries and the US can live happily with people getting massacred in other countries with Gaza being the most prominent but far from the only example.

    So Germany will support Ukraine up to the point its not inconvenient for them. They don’t have any special kinship nor any legal obligation to assist more.

    If Russia had performed better in the war Germany probably would feel urged to spend more both in Ukraine to win time to rearm itself. As things stand, Russia cannot threaten Germany and whether it occupies parts of Ukraine is not the end of the world (for Germany).

    The US won’t “stop funding the defense” of EU or Taiwan or any other country. That’s the basis of US power. Trump might be compromised, other right wongers might be interested in trading USA’s dominance in the world for remaking of according to their fantasies but they are going to meet pushback from the establishment, including right wingers, including the military. Not going to be alright in any sense but the US military won’t just withdraw.







  • I think most internet arguments are like that, the opposing parties are trying to argue their case for the neutrals, people who have not really made up their mind on the issue.

    After all nobody likes to be ‘corrected’ by random strangers. Additionally it’s clearly an important issue for rgullis, he has written some software for lemmy (think a migration tool), has his own instance (with communities, not just to keep track of downvotes). You would expect him to have though his position out (according to his beliefs) and thus not be easily swayed.

    I am just stubborn, perhaps it would be better to ignore being ‘called out’ but… no.


  • I just pointed out “the old times” to respond to your idea that “it has always been this way”. It’s funny how young people think that the world has been invented the moment they were born. Everything that came before that can be simply erased.

    I was born way way before reddit existed. Voting is even older. People may claim they are unbiased etc, use fancy debating terms etc, but in the end they vote (whether via explicit voting mechanism ala reddit/lemmy or +1 posts) based on their opinions. In a lot of cases such as discussing nazism for example it makes no sense.

    that it skews too much to the right.

    You can’t read? The actual full quote is

    The issue with Nazism is not that it is extreme, that it skews too much to the right.

    maybe you think you saw a ‘it’s’ after the comma, maybe you think that the negative (‘not’) does not apply to the sentence after the comma (incorrectly) but most likely you are again being dishonest.

    My position is explicitly that I do not care about left and right. I do not abhor Nazism because of it’s position on a left-right axis but because it considers people vermin that have to be exterminated.

    Thank you very much for showing your true colors.

    ‘The pot calling the kettle black’ was never more appropriate. Though I suppose a pants-on-fire liar would be mostly red.

    You can go now…

    Thanks for your permission your highness.


  • No, that is absolutely false. Before Reddit’s Eternal September, voting was used as a way to signal quality content and it pretty much was followed by a good majority of the people.

    Ah, yes the good old times. Just don’t take off your nostalgia-tinted glasses.

    And this is precisely what people are talking about here. You might not see that way, but tankies are extremists. There are people that don’t want to join any conversation there, and therefore this is why they want alternatives.

    The issue with Nazism is not that it is extreme, that it skews too much to the right. Nazism is inherently evil because it claims certain peoples are not worth existing and should be eliminated.

    It makes they think "what is so bad about this comment that it really warrants the downvote.

    I wonder what could make you think of honesty.

    I didn’t ask you to remove the downvote. I asked you only to explain your reasoning, which is now quite clearly faulty.

    Of course not. You wanted to make an example of me and the other guy to prevent a pile-on, that is more people downvoting you. You are blackmailing them by showing them what could happen to them. Obviously it’s not working because it’s just some posts on an internet forum.


  • YES! It’s not like votes are worth anything here, but one of the reasons that voting mechanisms become completely useless as a way to signal quality conversations is when people blindly upvote/downvote everything just because they don’t like what is being said. People that do what you are doing end up showing more about themselves than about the one posting the comment that you didn’t like.

    Indeed voting is worthless here, you do not get blocked from posting like reddit so there’s no silencing effect. Voting has always been about whether you agree or not with an opinion, not about the quality of a conversation (an abstract concept, realistically immeasurable). Yes reddit had/has the Reddiquette, it was not ever actually followed by the users. Turns out you can’t just redefine thing on a whim.

    Would you feel so defensive about it if the communities were being hosted in a right-wing instance?

    Right-wing as in neo-nazi ? I would not join a community in that server. Right wing as in pro-Israelor pro-capitalism? I do participate and get in meaningless flame wars when their callousness gets the best of me. I will not hold it against communities that do not deal with these issues and are just hosted on that instance.

    Because it makes people think about what about the comment they are downvoting, instead of reflexively clicking on a button.

    Think of what?

    It does not fit at all. I’m not trying to get anything out of you for my own benefit, and I am not doing it to submit you into compliance.

    Does not voting against your post not count as compliance?