I felt like I must have misread the ruling after seeing all of the articles and comments.

Former presidents also have a “presumption of immunity” for their official acts while in office — but, the court ruled, there is no immunity for “unofficial acts.”

So chutkin is going to decide what acts were official acts and which were unofficial.

But “presumption of immunity” is a weird fucking phrase too because it makes it seem like you can prove they aren’t immune? Like presumption of innocence–you start there and work the other way. So presumably(pardon the pun) you can start there with this and work the other way still?

I’d need actual lawyers to make this make sense.

But either way it didn’t seem as “carte Blanche presidents can do anything” to me when I read it.

Federal ethics guidelines are $20 of value and it can’t be a cash equivalent (gift card).

These clowns are so out of touch.

…that leech fell. Wtf is this jumping business

This is a fantastic analogy.

I’d say they limit the impact of corruption.

Yea, I definitely understand what you are saying. I dont get those people either. Its frustrating and even heartbreaking because they are so misled–but are also so easily “misleadable”. Its hard to not fault them for it; its hard not to call them dumb.

I guess historically we called those people “suckers” or “rubes” – which still may not accurately reflect that they can be very smart people (or even critical thinkers) in most other aspects.

Bots in the build up to the election here in the states?

There are certainly very dumb people that support trump. There seems to be a willful ignorance amongst his base. That said, dismissing them all as “dummies” hides the really scary problem: they aren’t necessarily dumb; they are brainwashed.

Imagine if all you heard was how great Trump was, how much he’s accomplished, how badly Democrats want to bring him down, how they are setting him up,that Biden is the reason for these prosecutions, and never hearing any of the facts about the cases or anything remotely negative about Trump.

If you lived your entire life main-lining conservative talk radio, YouTube conservative conspiracy theorists, Fox News, news Maxx…and then have social media magnifying those views by feeding you all the things you already want to Believe (because you’ve been listening to this shit for years). Now Facebook is saying all of your friends think this way too.

Then you have republican “leadership” lying to you or misrepresenting almost everything because they can’t afford to lose their clicks or have news Maxx call them a Democrat plant. They are doing everything they can to stay in power even if it means they have no ethics or values. So they’ll sit there and weasel out of having any sort of backbone against obvious corruption or criminal activity.

And because of all that, people who grew up believing the news wouldn’t straight up lie or that their party has integrity, ethics, and values…they end up believing what they hear. It’s what their friends say on Facebook. It’s a massive groupthink.

When people say it’s like a cult, it truly is. They need to be deprogrammed. You know how hard it is to break people from their religion? That’s how hard it’s going to be to reel back Maga people.

But from their absolutely misguided, misinformed foundation, they are acting rationally. If everything they hear on a daily basis is true, of course they are fired up.

This trick is: how do we reach them? How can we even start reeling them back in?

We need things like this guilty verdict. We need actual leadership in the Republican party to stand up for what’s right and admonish his behavior. A group of them need to do it together so they can’t be picked off like injured gazelle by news outlets whose business is outrage.

I don’t watch much TV anymore. Actually I’ve probably watched less than an hour of actual TV this year.

Watching that clip of Noem was shocking. She says nothing. Answers nothing. When she is obviously backed in a corner she says she “doesn’t answer hypotheticals” and starts talking about an open border. Obviously South Dakota a land locked, non-border state is very concerned about this.

The reporter did okay, but she should have pressed even harder to push back against all of the lies. But the whole questioning around the jurors and if she would have decided the same way (after already getting her to basically say the jurors decided correctly with the information they had) she even accidentally admitted the evidence was overwhelmingly lop sided because uh…of course it was.

Anyway, that was brilliant from the host.

Carry a gun on your face. Problem solved

This doesn’t look like his house, but he defended it so it must be.

He lives up the road from me (I only found out when roe got fucked and a swat team and 3 dozen police were camped out in front of his house).

That said, his excuse could be somewhat valid. People can get dumb with their yard signs up here. The MAGA crowd are a very small minority up here and most people aren’t shy about “counter signage” (eg BLM, pride flags, Biden signs).

If his wife was butthurt about signs hurting her feelings, maybe she did this in protest.

Also, and I hate that I’m defending this piece of shit, but flipping a flag upside down isn’t a “stop the steal” specific sign of protest. People do it for all sorts of reasons.

I’m not willing to “give” them this symbol/protest.

Baby korn

I know this is preaching to the choir here, but this is so gross across the board.

My wife and I struggled to have our kid. That process is brutal. A lot of women miscarry. A lot of women have unviable pregnancies–like this. An obvious-to-everyone-but-conservatives outcome to banning abortions is that women will lose their ability to have children(like this) or worse they’ll die.

My wife has a very high likelihood of miscarriage. Miscarriages can cause all sorts of issues and sometimes doctors need to go in and clear stuff out (this is considered an abortion). If that doesn’t happen, my wife could 1. Die 2. Lose her ovaries/uterus/fallopian tube 3. Never have a chance at more kids again.

Abortions mean people have have happy healthy families. Abortions mean women can bring children into this world.

We were lucky we didn’t have to go down that path, but it’s a serious risk if we try to have another kid.

People act like women go get abortions for shits and giggles. Fuck anyone voting against women.

I can’t tell if ops joke is “intentionally confusing buffers with registers” and everyone is playing along or if people aren’t making the distinction between the two in this thread.

Which is ironic and humorous…potentially by accident.

This feels like a troll account for some reason. Stirring the pot pretty disingenuously across the board.

The railroad workers got what they wanted because the admin followed up. So he averted a rail strike and got them their concessions.

The east Palestine disaster isn’t this admins fault. It’s anl negligent rail companies fault combined with deregulation from previous Congresses and the previous administration. Not to mention both previous Congress and admin sat on an infrastructure spending packages that could have addressed antiquated rail infrastructure. Ironically, Biden managed to pass the biggest infrastructure package in American history (with a divided Congress). With clean energy and resiliency built it. And if I recall correctly FEMA and Co are still monitoring and supporting the clean up.

Your fossil fuel is thing is BS because of course its growing–we’ve done nothing, our CONGRESS has done nothing to curtail it. The previous admin opened the flood gates on regulations as well. Don’t lay that at the feet of this admin. That’s absolute horse shit. The aforementioned infrastructure bill included the most investment in green energy ever.

And the anti trans shit is Bidens fault how? He signed the respect marriage act, he reversed the ban for trans service members, and strengthen some of the protections against discrimination re housing and healthcare.

You want lord emperor Biden to go send mobs after statehouses and local governments?? That’s not how Any of this works and you know it.

That last part isn’t a fact. We don’t have a ruling and we don’t know how they will vote.

(God knows how this court will vote but don’t spread misinformation)

4/20 joke

One of my favorite cartoons is the dinosaurs, with a giant meteor coming in hot in the background, and the dino says “oh no the economy!”

Hear hear.

Most underrated President of all time. My expectations weren’t high, but I have to admit, he’s absolutely blown me away with how effective he’s been.

Given the shit he was handed from the previous admin, with a divided Congress, etc. he’s absolutely crushing it. Imagine what he could do with a Congress behind him and a supreme Court that wasn’t broken.

But didn’t they have three separate votes, one on each?