I’m way more worried about where the energy is coming from and what the true cost of storage is, rather than where I get it from. Every conversion/storage has an energy and materials cost. As bad as petrol burning is, I have to imagine coal burning + transfer loss has to be about as bad. Not to mention the nature of lithium cells.
We don’t need more charging stations to make EV viable, we need more nuclear power plants and cleaner battery tech first.
That was my first thought lmao
I think most of us blocked it out
Always happy to try and productively add to someone’s learning.
I guess I just misunderstood what you were arguing then. For posterity: I believe datasets containing children is fine, datasets containing csam is not, and the legality of generating csam should be left up to psychologists on whether or not it is a societal net benefit. Whichever way is better for children that exist is my vote.
I’m not arguing whether or not it should be legal, I was just offering my first hand experience in regards to the capabilities of these local models since people seem to be confused as to how this actually works.
That would be true, it’d be pretty difficult to build a model without any pictures of children at all, and then try and describe to the model how to alter an adult to make a child. Is anyone asking for that though? To make it illegal to have regular pictures of children in these datasets?
I’m not going to say that csam in training sets isn’t a problem. However, even if you remove it, the model remains largely the same, and its capabilities remain functionally identical.
It doesn’t need csam data for training, it just needs to know what a boob looks like, and what a child looks like. I run some sdxl-based models at home and I’ve observed it can be difficult to avoid more often than you’d think. There are keywords in porn that blend the lines across datasets (“teen”, “petite”, “young”, “small” etc). The word “girl” in particular I’ve found that if you add that to basically any porn prompt gives you a small chance of inadvertently creating the undesirable. You have to be really careful and use words like “woman”, “adult”, etc instead to convince your image model not to make things that look like children. If you’ve ever wondered why internet-based porn generators are on super heavy guardrails, this is why.
With my country’s propensity for cultural appropriation, I would like also appropriate this practice of executing white-collar crime bosses.
If they need to buy/sell all our personal information so they can advertise, and they need to do that to survive, I’d say let them go bankrupt
As long as it doesn’t take other industries with it, hard agree.
Also, what is proposed is very reasonable, this won’t cause a recession.
If you’re right, no disagreement there either.
All I was trying to get at was that there is some nuance here; concern is not exclusive to corporate shilling.
Perhaps I just did a bad job of explaining my position; I agree. I just think it’s worth considering the unintended consequences of a rug pull. Maybe we need to wean the industry off slowly or something else entirely. etc. all I was getting at was that caution doesn’t immediately mean someone is bought and paid for by industry lobbies. There is nuance here.
Advertising is a core funding model for a lot of businesses. There is the legitimate the argument that upending it now could lead to the collapse of a lot of the tech sector. While I do believe we never should have gotten here in the first place, we should be cautious and methodical when unwinding it. We don’t want a recession, and we need US businesses to be able to compete on the global stage.
I support your position in principle, but canceled my own nitro when they did the android app redesign. It went from really snappy (respecting system animation scale settings) to completely ignoring them. It feels like molasses compared to every other phone app that operates at the system set 0.25 animation scale.
They also completely broke foldable support, and if your device changes aspect ratios inside a chat, you have to restart your client to get it to behave correctly again.
The enshittification is real and I am voting with my wallet.
Xmpp is by design, an extensible protocol. There just doesn’t seem to be any motivation to develop for it.
I disagree, I think words having powerful, negative meaning like that is a symptom of a deeper problem, not a root problem in and of itself. We shouldn’t be tackling the problem of people using words, we should be tackling the problem of why do they want to use those words in the first place?
Indeed, they recognize that education is the antithesis of their ideals.
He’s not wrong though; you have to battle ideas not words. Education is the solution.
Unfounded is the correct term here. It’s possible that it did happen; evidence, however, does not support a claim that it did.
I think the vision was what Motorola delivered briefly a decade ago with webtop. The original version of it was a chrooted lubuntu with full access to apt, and custom applications that let you render your phone, or phone apps as an application. It was powerful enough to get me through my first 3 years of a computer science program in college with a lapdock as my primary “computer”. (Think a brainless laptop, that you dock your phone into)
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/03/motorola-atrix-the-ubuntu-powered-webtop-experience/
When they moved from android 2.3 to 4.0, they dropped the lubuntu webtop in favor of Android’s tablet mode, which was a huge bummer, and what made me get an actual laptop. Outside of gaming, if that were the average computer paradigm today I’d be a happy camper. Why buy two computers when you can buy one instead?