The co-creator of the Dragon Age franchise has commented on the reaction to one of Baldur’s Gate 3’s main female characters, saying fans “always treated male characters with more forgiveness”.

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    Shadowheart and Lae’zel both annoy me and I really use neither if I can help doing so. Granted, I’m still getting to the side quests in Act 1 before moving on, so grain of salt, but they both currently occupy one end of an uninteresting extreme imo — Shadowheart the shrinking little flower that needs saving, Lae’zel the shallow, judgy barbarian I’m shocked to hear would have an arc.

    I dislike her because she’s unendingly rude and violent for no reason, even when the occasion would go over better if she chose to cool it. If she were male, I’d still hate her him because it’s every time he opens his mouth. Nobody likes a dick bag.

    As noted in the article, Astarion IS pompous and mean, but the important part is he’s snarky instead of outright abusive, is rarely outwardly violent, and does what he does in a way that’s funny. I keep him on my team purely to hear him backtalk Wyll and reminisce about hedonism and do not get the sense at any point that he would hit me over the head with a club and drag me into a cave.

    If he acted all rough and edgy and broody instead of intentionally looking for amusement via horrifying randos just to see what they do, I’d consider him the world’s most boring fanservice.

    Anyway, the actual shining gem is Karlach and I’m increasingly in disbelief that I’ve seen no one singing her praises. I usually do find female characters underwhelmingly written and moments like Karlach are very needed reminders that I’m not some weird misogynist, I just hate bad writing and it’s everywhere. I fell INSTANTLY in love with that energy and remain so.

    Ultimately, I may not like the one, but I am glad we’re able to do Warrior Female now and go all the way with actually making them warriors. More Amazonians in media!

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      One of the keys to writing a compelling arc is to start somewhere you can juxtapose against with where you end up.

      Both of your characterizations of the characters may not remain the same as you play though.

      Of course, the cool thing about what Larian did is that whether they do or don’t depends a lot on player interactions and choice.

      You may have a very shallow Lae’zel by the end of her arc in your game depending on both certain choices and the roll of the dice.

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        Honestly, I’ve been putting off the creche because I haven’t wanted to deal with her. So knowing she at least has some sort of development beyond that gives me hope

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          I won’t say I’d consider her my favorite character by any means but I will say after I gave her a chance and actually had conversations with her, had her in my party and did the stuff at the creche she’s (in my opinion) got some of the best character growth in the whole game.

          Without going into details (and also because it is variable depending on how you go about things with her) she more or less starts out firm in her beliefs before slowly beginning to realize what she thought was the truth of her world ended up wrong and it changes her in a big way.

          It’s, in my opinion, really well done character growth if you chose to give her a chance.

          Honestly though Karlach best girl.

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      Me in a long rest, the section of the game I’m instructed to shoot the shit with the other characters to learn about their motivations:

      Hey lazel, what do you think about our situation?

      Her:

      Hold your tongue idiot, you’d do well to act more and speak less.

      Me: alright well fuck me I guess. Enjoy sitting in camp from now on, you’re benched.