• Lauchs@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Like I said:

    For singers who are mostly political, sure, this kind of makes sense (think most of the famous 60s singers, most punk etc) but, to the best of my knowledge/limited listening, Swift’s music has seemed pretty non political, which makes it a bit weird to me. (That being said, also what makes it a bit more effective. Rage against the Machine telling folks to vote is preaching to the choir.)

    To me, there’s a difference between music that’s explicitly political effecting political behaviour and music that isn’t.

    If, I dunno, BTS got hundreds of thousands of kids to register as Republican, I imagine/hope people would be concerned that that’s where kids are getting their political direction from.

    Edit: I have no idea if BTS is actually political, I assume not. Most of the young music this old fuck listens to are political because that’s what I enjoy, so I’m not great at picking pop non political stuff. Sorry!

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      2 months ago

      Taylor Swift definitely has some political songs like “The Man,” which is focused on the double standard faced by female celebrities, or “You Need to Calm Down,” which is explicitly pro-LGBTQ+, etc.

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        2 months ago

        Neat! Though, I think her political songs aren’t really what she’s known for? I could be completely wrong though!

        Edit: I mean, especially when you think about the artists you first listed like Baez and Young.

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          You’re definitely right; maybe someone like Dolly Parton would have been a better comparison, but even Dolly doesn’t really capture his big Swift is.

          Really, my first instinct was to go with Neil Young because he’s one of my favorite artists of all time, and I do think that a lot of his biggest hits weren’t really overly political, probably split about 50:50 even if we remember the more political stuff now. For every “Ohio” and “For What It’s Worth,” there’s a “Heart of Gold” and “Helpless.”

          But really I’m splitting hairs because I like talking about music and playing the devil’s advocate. Your initial point that Swift isn’t known for writing protest music is absolutely correct.

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            2 months ago

            Still, neat to learn that Swift has some political content! I in my monumental ignorance just assumed it was all songs about various exes. (I listened to one album and that seemed like the theme though I got bored partway and stopped really paying attention.)

            And as much as I hate celeb culture, there’s a small part of me that’s like “maybe we could all agree on a President Dolly Parton?”