• Lester_Peterson [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Ukraine’s deindustrialization since the fall of communism is incredible.

      In 1992 Ukraine was the industrial powerhouse of the USSR, with manufacturing holding a 45% share of GDP. By 2022 that share declined to just 8%, with Ukraine transformed into an outpost of American agri-business. One whose only remaining industrial policies were to sell off what was left of state enterprises while praying to become the cheap place for Western tech to outsource.

      https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NV.IND.MANF.ZS?locations=UA

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        I always find it funny when Ukrainian nationalists point out how Soviet Ukraine did this and that, how it was powerful, how its people were engaged in important battles in WWII, how they had plenty of industry. Of course they were. They think they’re bragging and owning you, but that’s only the case if you think USSR = Russia and not a multi ethnic country. Really it’s more of a self own because it reveals how much the country flourished under le ebil commie dictatorship and how much it suffers under freedom capitalism.

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        5 months ago

        Insert Eric Andre killing Hannibal meme

        USA (eric) shooting Ukraine (Hannibal)

        “Why did communism do this?”

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Pretend i made a joke about “The Slav” courting “Europa” and used the word “Nubile” because i started writing it out and even as eye rolling mockery of European sexual pathology it felt gross to write.

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        It gets even grosser when one realizes that from roughly 1995 to 2005, Ukraine was the world’s main source of CSAM material. A largely unfiltered internet, desperate poverty, and corrupt law enforcement made for the ideal dark conditions for CSAM rings to sell photos and videos to westerners with a preference for Caucasian kids.

    • Staines [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      The RAND Corporation study that was used as the template for America’s war in Ukraine specifically outlines the scenario where Russia reindustralises and wins. The conclusion is: this is unlikely, but would be catastrophic.

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        5 months ago

        Working for war think tanks has to be so fun. You get to play board games and call it productive work, get paid $100k to role play, and then the DM turns in a report of the game to the president

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      It’s seriously hilarious to see them saying “a lot ofnpeople say we should concede but that would be bad for ukraine”

      Hey dummy, what other option do you have. It’s a child’s argument. Losing would be bad and we dont like bad so we’re not going to lose.

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    Ukraine has lost even if they somehow win over Russia militarily. The best case scenario for Ukrainians is to flee to western countries and atleast enjoy a somewhat Stabler life.

  • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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    wow if Ukraine & Russia’s powers combined are enough to blanket the world in a Slav Age, one shudders to imagine what would’ve happened if also Belarus, baltic states, the caucausus, & transoxiana were too? surely the torch of liberal democracy would have been snuffed out!