• trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    It is good when the most fascistic US political party occasionally suffers from the anti-democratic electoral system in the US, yes.

    It’s unfortunate that actual left-leaning third-parties in the US contribute to the spoiler effect, and therefore rightfully catch flack for it, but I won’t stop myself from celebrating the fact that the Libertarian party ruins things for the Republicans.

    Actual serious third-parties should be pushing hard in local and state elections, where they actually have some shot of winning. And props to the Green candidates and other nominally left-leaning politicians that actually do that. But Jill Stein and Cornell West only rearing their heads every four years to syphon off votes from the Democrats in presidential races that they will never win, without putting in the work in the local elections, is counter-productive and only aids the right-wing in gaining power.

    Sorry, but the spoiler effect is real. And, yes, it’s good when it the Republican party suffers from it, and bad when Democrats suffer from it.

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      It’s unfortunate that actual left-leaning third-parties in the US contribute to the spoiler effect, and therefore rightfully catch flack for it, but I won’t stop myself from celebrating the fact that the Libertarian party ruins things for the Republicans.

      So it’s ok when it happens to the OTHER party, just not when it happens to your party. Hmmm…

      Sorry, but the spoiler effect is real. And, yes, it’s good when it the Republican party suffers from it, and bad when Democrats suffer from it.

      Well at least you admit the hypocrisy.

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        2 months ago

        Would you shed a tear for when the spoiler effect happens to hurt fascists? I wouldn’t ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          But why are you so angry about left-leaning third parties then? I mean, you don’t see the hypocrisy in laughing when it happens to republicans but being angry when it happens to democrats?!

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            …you don’t see the hypocrisy in laughing when it happens to republicans but being angry when it happens to democrats?!

            Hypocrisy would require that I had some say in the anti-democratic system that we’re all subjected to, but I don’t, so when anti-democratic shit hurts fascists, I take it as a fortunate side-effect to an otherwise fucked up system.

            But why are you so angry about left-leaning third parties then?

            I’m not angry about left-leaning third-parties? I just wish more of the third-parties would put in the necessary work in down-ballot local elections. People like Jill Stein just show up in the presidential race to grift and detract from the total number of votes that the Democrats would get. I would encourage third-party candidates to in down-ballot elections, where they can actually win and make a difference. I vote for those candidates when they run in elections I can vote in. But Jill Stein and Cornell West are clearly just grifting in a race they’ll never win, and in doing so will take away some amount of potentially-Democratic voters.

            You have every right to vote for whomever you want, but don’t delude yourself into thinking that voting third-party in a US presidential race is anything more than a virtue signal.