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    4 months ago

    Vitriol and negativity doesn’t win over voters. I’m starting to think a lot of the more ardent “Biden or Else” supporters actually want Trump to win. Stoking division among potential voters is a sure fire way to do that.

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        4 months ago

        Then why do you care. Wait, you actually think you’re changing Trump supporters minds? GMAFB

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          Nope. I’m trying to ensure that the work propagandists do is undermined. Nothing more.

          Calling you out seems to work just fine to that effect.

          And thanks for pretty much admitting that you and non voters like you- are irrelevant to the upcoming election. That’s all I really needed you to say.

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            So anyone that disagrees with your Biden or else position is a propagandist? How about you just accept that I won’t give Biden my vote mostly because of Gaza and just move on.

            My vote, my choice.

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              So the fact that you know damn well that Trump will do just as much if not worse- illustrates that you Gaza stance is absolute bullshit.

              And the fact that you know damn well by now what will happen to our LGBTQ+ friends and family, and women’s body autonomy if Trump is elected- and clearly don’t give a shit about any of it-

              Shows you’re a propagandist. Don’t make this about my words- it’s YOURS that are telling on you.

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                Yeah okay pal, you keep throwing around propagandist as if you just learned the word and need to use it as much as possible. Right now you’re like an exposed nerve so I’m there’s no point in me trying to have a dialogue.

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                  That’s quite an ironic accusation considering you haven’t seemed to mentioned Gaza at all prior to now. I’m guessing you’re either new to the concept of genocide- or you haven’t been made aware that Palestine was a place that existed before recently?

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            I’m reluctantly voting for Biden. And I don’t need your validation to do so. This heavy-handed approach of forcing people to vote your candidate generally has the opposite effect.

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              Who’s forcing or being forced? You’re not a victim of voting oppression because someone suggest you do the right thing and keep a rapist traitor out of office.

              Reluctantly do whatever the fuck you want- or don’t. But anyone here rusts suggesting that we don’t vote against a tyrant is here in bad faith and needs to be called out for what they are.

              As I’ve said- if this doesn’t describe you-

              THEN I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.

              So how about you take a deep breath and stop white-knighting for people that are using your platform to disrupt an election.

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                do whatever the fuck you want- or don’t.

                is here in bad faith and needs to be called out for what they are.

                Which is it? Do whatever you want, or needs to be called out?

                Again, the enemy is both strong and weak.

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                  Do whatever you want- AND take the risk of being called out.

                  You’re not exempt from criticism for what you decide to do, or not do- but for now, you’re free to do it or not.

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                    So, I can vote however I want. Unless it’s different than what you chose. Then, you get to endlessly berate me. Are you a car salesman?

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              Oh ya, Trump is oozing with honey, that’s why he has so much support.

              No one is “forcing” anyone to vote for Biden. They’re just me being coddled when they say Biden is bad so you should let someone significantly worse be in power.

              The time to complain about Biden not being good enough is during the primaries, and the 3.5 years between elections. People need to accept reality that this coming election is between Biden and Trump, and no amount of complaining about Biden will change that.

              Yes, absolutely complain that Biden isn’t doing enough and push him to do more. But this rhetoric of “I’m not going to vote for Biden so that the US can burn to the ground under Trump” is childish.