Sorry that I ask questions instead of accepting whatever.
Claiming that you just need to throw X money at such an extremely complex issue and then it will be solved world wide is just laughable. As if there are no bad actors etc. pp.
Just asking questions about if poor people should have enough food to live or if that would make them breed too much, no fucked-up Malthusian undertones here, nossir
That was never the point. The point is precisely that many poor people will NOT see the money/food/help just like all the times before now.
I also assume that, even if they miraculously really all get it, you will have at least one boomer generation, so more people per area that need to be fed. You then need to immediately get education up and running. Things then need to be stable for decades to make the fertility rate drop. It is not a simple “costs X then solved forever worldwide” kind of thing. It is also not something we can somehow “force” on them, at least not by throwing money at the problem.
Damn you’re right, it’s almost like we need to also restructure society in such a way that prioritizes human need and equitable access to resources and education on an ongoing basis, instead of the maximization of profits at the expense of literally everyone on Earth. It’s a good thing the world isn’t currently being ravaged by an economic order reliant on murder, starvation and inefficiency, otherwise this persistent handwringing about logistics and overpopulation would seem really strange and premature.
Like dude, no person or faction with the political will to go up against the forces keeping people in poverty is currently in any position to do so. We’re talking about a make-believe scenario, and the fact that even then your mind goes immediately to “overpopulation” is mega sus and indicative of where your priorities are.
Yes, you did provide a source. But you are neither of the 2 people I replied to, so I am not sure why you tell me this out how it is relevant to what I said to this other person?
Sorry that I ask questions instead of accepting whatever. Claiming that you just need to throw X money at such an extremely complex issue and then it will be solved world wide is just laughable. As if there are no bad actors etc. pp.
Just asking questions about if poor people should have enough food to live or if that would make them breed too much, no fucked-up Malthusian undertones here, nossir
That was never the point. The point is precisely that many poor people will NOT see the money/food/help just like all the times before now.
I also assume that, even if they miraculously really all get it, you will have at least one boomer generation, so more people per area that need to be fed. You then need to immediately get education up and running. Things then need to be stable for decades to make the fertility rate drop. It is not a simple “costs X then solved forever worldwide” kind of thing. It is also not something we can somehow “force” on them, at least not by throwing money at the problem.
Damn you’re right, it’s almost like we need to also restructure society in such a way that prioritizes human need and equitable access to resources and education on an ongoing basis, instead of the maximization of profits at the expense of literally everyone on Earth. It’s a good thing the world isn’t currently being ravaged by an economic order reliant on murder, starvation and inefficiency, otherwise this persistent handwringing about logistics and overpopulation would seem really strange and premature.
Like dude, no person or faction with the political will to go up against the forces keeping people in poverty is currently in any position to do so. We’re talking about a make-believe scenario, and the fact that even then your mind goes immediately to “overpopulation” is mega sus and indicative of where your priorities are.
It is not whatever. I have provided a credible source for you for the numbers in another comment 6 hours ago. Please stop arguing in bad faith.
Yes, you did provide a source. But you are neither of the 2 people I replied to, so I am not sure why you tell me this out how it is relevant to what I said to this other person?