• Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Scenario 3: the person finishes up their meal quickly allowing the other person who is waiting for the table to have it.

    Asking someone for a favor isn’t stressing someone. If that actually does stress them then they have worse problems than being asked to finish their meal quickly.

    Be excellent with each other. The world will be a much better place if we all try to practice that.

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      Let others enjoy their meal at peace. Asking someone to “hurry up” is not a favour and extremely rude.

      If she wanted to ask for a favour, it should go something like this: “Sorry to interrupt, are you nearly finished? Could we have your seat if you are done?” And then patiently wait however long it takes for them to finish.

      Be excellent with each other.

      How does this defend the person that was being rude lol

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        How does this defend the person that was being rude lol

        Asking for a favor is not being rude (assuming if it’s been asked nicely). Especially if you’re hogging a shared resource that’s in limited supply (seating).

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          assuming if it’s been asked nicely

          It was not. That’s the problem, and it’s the reason for OP’s reaction.

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        Let others enjoy their meal at peace. Asking someone to “hurry up” is not a favour and extremely rude.

        Seating is a limited public resource shared by all. It’s really not that unreasonable if the restaurant is being slammed and there’s no tables available.

        At the end of the day, if you know the restaurant is so busy and table seating is a huge problem why not get in and get out quickly, and share the resource with your fellow citizens, and make everyone’s day a little better.

        There’s so much anger and hate going on right now, we really could try to be a little understanding with each other and tamping that hate down.

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          A restaurant is a private business and their seating is private, I don’t believe any restaurant would be happy with some random trying to hurry on their customers.

          If a customer is taking excessive time it would be up to the staff to request them to move on.

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            A restaurant is a private business and their seating is private, I don’t believe any restaurant would be happy with some random trying to hurry on their customers.

            If a customer is taking excessive time it would be up to the staff to request them to move on.

            Totally depends on the venue, and how much control the restaurant staff has on the seating, versus if people come in and manage their own seating.

            What I took from the original tweet was it’s the latter, and not the former.

            What you are describing is for the former.

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          At the end of the day, if you know the restaurant is so busy and table seating is a huge problem…

          … why not make plans with a backup restaurant in mind if you’re meeting up with friends, just in case it’s full already like it often is?

          What if every other table was already occupied by people meeting friends. They’re all entitled to be there. This lady only bullied OP and told him to hurry up because he was there alone. And what you’re saying is that if you’re alone, you’re not really entitled to use shared resources beyond the absolute minimum necessary?

          You’re calling for mutual understanding while supporting the position of someone who demonstrably has none as she goes around ordering people to leave public spaces becauss they think they’re more important. ‘Mutual understanding’ is revoked when it’s clear the other party only wants to abuse it.

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          Because people pay to eat their food and don’t want to get forced to move by people who think their lives are more important than others. If the meeting is so important, make a reservation.

          Your failure to plan is not my problem. I don’t owe you any favors.

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            I don’t owe you any favors.

            I don’t know your life experiences I don’t know why you have such a hard ass perspective on things.

            All I’m advocating for is that in society, when we all need access to shared resources, especially when they are in limited supply, that we use those resources as quickly as we can, and then we move on, so the next person can use them.

            That can’t be such a difficult concept to understand, and it makes the world work so much better when there’s less friction in it.

            Hell, the Japanese even have a name for it (society cooperation, and how you act).

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                Your failure to plan is not my problem.

                Personal responsibility, have you heard of it?

                I didn’t say what you’re replying to. You’re misquoting, or replying to the wrong person.

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                  I said that in my previous comment and you conveniently avoided it. I am quoting myself to re-raise the point. You argue with bad faith.

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                    I said that in my previous comment and you conveniently avoided it.

                    No, it’s just separate from what I quoted, and what I was responding to you about. A general responsibility to others, and how others plan their events, are two different things. I was commenting just on the responsibility part, and not the planning part.

                    But, to comment on your second part that you quoted yourself on (weird, but okay), no human being on this planet is 100% correct 100% of the time, and plans 100% perfectly.

                    If we just cut each other some slack, and help each other out, things would be much better for all, because it’s in our nature to not be perfect.

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        Balderdash. Poppycock, even.

        If you do Humanuty right, it becomes an “Excelsior!” existence.