• Silverseren@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Israel made an agreement with the hospital to let an ambulance go and save her. And then blew up the ambulance when it got there. There’s no other definition of that than pure evil.

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      Calling it evil almost seems too sterile. Disney villains are evil. Plankton from Spongebob is evil.

      These people are the embodiment of monsters. Grotesque and warped scum that don’t even deserve to be radioactive glass fused to the sandy dirt that holds up their buildings. These are the kind of people that could bring even a pacifist comfort by dying painful deaths. It’s rare anything, anyone, makes me seethe to such a profound degree and imagining them being wiped out in some divine intervention is the only thing that brings me peace.

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        Yep, considered myself a pacifist for a long time but these monsters have removed that. Vile humans. And those “protesters” stopping aid getting in, I’m happily see them flattened. I’ve never in my life have I seen such horrors, and for those horrors cheered on by a majority of a countries population. Fucking sick.

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        Jesus Christ.

        I 100% get it. This twists my heart in a way that is unbearable. However we cannot flirt with the siren song of vengeance. It’s a poisoned impulse. That whisper calling to dehumanize those who dehumanize is a devil that plays all sides, and when we listen to it it takes us away from the mission to protect life.

        We need to save the children of Palestine. We need to bring PEACE and SECURITY to Gaza. Wishing for genocide against Israel is not only unproductive, it’s deeply counterproductive and wrong. Channel your anger towards love of the vulnerable, NOT hate.

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          And while we ask then politely to stop, how many more will he slaughtered with our weapons? How many of them will fight back to be defeated by our Iron Domes? How much blood on our hands does there have to be before we stop them the only way their hate addled minds can comprehend?

          We didn’t ask the Nazis to stop, we put them down like dogs. Sometimes you protect life by taking it and I’m tired of half measures when people are being slaughtered. Starved. Made to drink muddy water.

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            You just want to kill innocents pf the other side. Your idea is not any better than the idea israel has with Gaza

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              Lol no, unlike the fucking monsters that live among them Id like women, children, and all noncombatants to be completely unharmed.

              Fuck the rest.

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            You’re operating under an assumption that is as widespread as it is unfounded: that how seriously we take a problem correlates with our willingness to kill.

            That willingness – to commit counter-genocide, if I’m understanding you correctly – isn’t an identifying feature of people with courage to act or a deep-hearted commitment to protecting the vulnerable.

            Ultimately, I think you will always find yourself at the same fork: do you pursue safety for the vulnerable OR do you pursue your adversary?

            At this moment, it’s as obvious as ever. Even if you killed every Israeli – which is a phrase that genuinely disgusts me to type out – that wouldn’t rescue Gaza. They need food and medicine. After you finish executing your fantasy… the people of Gaza are still starving, and in addition to committing mass murder against Jewish Israelis, you would have killed 1.3 million Israeli Palestinians.

            We need to start with support for the people of Palestine, as well as innocent Israelis. And then we need to ask what they need and break through any obstacle to provide it. We need to throw sand and wrenches in the gears of war. But your hate speech and truly nauseating fantasies aren’t doing anything to help anyone. And if I can be frank, I’m deeply skeptical that anyone who speaks as you do is of any use to the cause of Palestinian liberation.

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              I’d love support for Palestinians, IDF and ‘protestors’ refuse to let it through. Now what? Peace isn’t an option, they’ve ensured it.

              This isn’t hate speech and if you find my fantasies nauseating you can go be morally outraged in the corner where nobody will listen and those that do will be as helpless as you are.

              I hate the hateful. I don’t tolerate the intolerant. You can call me a hypocrite or whatever else, I don’t care, there is no room in this world for monsters and I will gladly rid the world of them so you don’t have to.

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    That poor little girl, the family and the heroic paramedics that tried to help. This is horrific and must end.

    I can’t fathom the horror. Our species is fucked.

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      She said: “We contacted the ministry of health and they coordinated our safe access with the Israeli authorities. We were given the green light to move the ambulance.”

      But she said the ambulance came under fire soon after it arrived at the location. “First [the paramedics] said the Israeli forces are putting laser lights on them … And then we heard a gunfire sound before we lost the connection. It was like a gunfire or explosion, we were not sure of what happened.”

      The Israelis baited an ambulance in to kill paramedics.

      If this isn’t a war crime, I don’t know what is.

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        If this isn’t a war crime, I don’t know what is.

        Doesn’t matter if no one is actually brought to justice.

        Real Justice—where they are tried, convicted and then hanged on live tv for those who want to witness—is what needs to happen.

        ETA: Not just the higher ups, but the individual soldiers as well; anyone who participated.

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        If that’s what happened I agree. Targeting a marked ambulance which had even notified them is unconscionable.

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            I see no evidence that they deliberately baited the ambulance? Bad coordination is the most likely explanation.

            To be clear, even in that case it’s still a war crime to shoot an ambulance.

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              In case you missed it

              She said: “We contacted the ministry of health and they coordinated our safe access with the Israeli authorities. We were given the green light to move the ambulance.

              But she said the ambulance came under fire soon after it arrived at the location. “First [the paramedics] said the Israeli forces are putting laser lights on them … And then we heard a gunfire sound before we lost the connection. It was like a gunfire or explosion, we were not sure of what happened.”

              They attacked the vehicle the girl was in, then gave the red crescent the green light to go in, and then opened fire once the ambulance arrived.

              That’s the textbook definition of baiting.

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                Yes someone gave the green light, someone shot at them. Nowhere it’s said those were the same people, nor that the people giving green light knew that the other people were going to shoot.

                The most likely thing is that they forgot to inform one group of soldiers, or that they misunderstood, or some other fatal miscommunication. Miscommunication is common in war. Deliberately baiting an ambulance is both extremely evil and stupid.

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                  Attacking a civilian vehicle, then green lighting an ambulance, and then attacking said ambulance is baiting.

                  Given the amount of surveillance by Israeli forces, there is absolutely no reason to doubt that they were listening to the conversations between everyone involved.

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      They will pay. It’s written in prophecies. How can any people who had terrible horrors done to them, do the same and worse to their neighbors? They are hypocrites. To think I cried and was depressed when I visited the Holocaust museum. I’m ashamed I felt that way now, and have no sympathy when they cry about what happened to them, because they are today’s Hitler. They are today’s murderous Nazis.

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        Being ashamed of righteous empathy is part of the problem. Be better than those that commit evil.

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        “Why do the Israelis say anyone that criticizes them is an anti-semite?”

        It’s because people like you give them the excuse.

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    I want to see the Israel apologists come up with an excuse for this. This is fucked up and anyone who thinks there’s a legitimate reason for this is a psycho.

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    There was a video making the rounds on Reddit yesterday of an ambulance getting bombed. Wonder if it was the same ambulance that was bombed on the way to save her.

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      Could be but it’s a pretty common occurrence so could be any. Seen a few videos of them being bombed.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    “I’m so scared, please come,” were some of the last words six-year-old Hind Rajab said in a telephone call to rescuers after her family’s car came under fire in Gaza City.Trapped in the vehicle and surrounded by her dead relatives, for three hours she pleaded with the Red Crescent to save her.But the aid agency lost contact with the ambulance dispatched to her aid on 29 January and its crew and Hind remained missing.

    Now Hind’s family has said that she was found dead inside the car in the Tel al-Hawa area of Gaza City on Saturday morning.

    Hind’s mother, Wissam Hamada, added: “I will question before God on Judgment Day those who heard my daughter’s cries for help and did not save her.”The Palestinian Red Crescent Society (PRCS) said that it had located its bombed-out ambulance just metres away, and that its two paramedics, Yusuf Al-Zeino and Ahmed Al-Madhoun, had also been killed.

    Gaza City has been devastated by fighting between Israel and Hamas since the war broke out four months ago and Hind’s family had reportedly been hoping to seek shelter elsewhere.

    The tragedy unfolded on 29 January, when Hind and her uncle, aunt and cousins attempted to flee approaching Israeli forces and their car came under fire.

    “The occupation deliberately targeted the Red Crescent crew despite prior coordination to allow the ambulance to arrive at the site to rescue Hind,” it said in a statement.


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    The speed at which “the west” is coming to understand what we all know that this aggression is over the top… It’s too late. History is not going to portray us in a friendly light. At this point we all collectively have blood on our hands.

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      It may be too late to change what history says about the first four months of these atrocities, but tomorrow remains unwritten.

      It’s not too late to save millions of people. It’s not too late to turn this into a moment when demands for peace finally won out, and a long overdue healing began.

      We can’t think like this is over, or hopeless.

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      What are you talking about? When did we in history portrait ourselves in a bad light? We’ll be remembered as heroes.

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        No because we are dinosaurs. The people who come after us will be far more empathetic towards each other.

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    Israel needs to be invaded and the terrorists known as LIKUD/IDF needs to be destroyed.

    They should not stop until the entire country is rubble, just to make sure they have every last member of these horrible terrorist groups de-armed forever. And any international funding needs to be cancelled immediately.

    If it was acceptable for the people of Israel to do this to Palestine, its only fair right?