• KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca
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    It’s going to be a better world when the US finally crumbles. I’m so tired of their shit.

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      The USA’s death throes are going to cause a lot of collateral damage across the globe.

      And far more for those of us who share a land border with them. The ensuing refugee crisis will be very harmful to Canada and Mexico.

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        Hella ironic that the country most enraged of illegals ends up having to become illegals themselves.

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    i issued a strong warning to my son about leaving the toilet seat up last night.

    why was there so much fuss about gaming journalism when regular journalism is such a shitshow? tell me more about these strong warnings and that so and so ‘slammed’ another so and so and how this recent iteration of ai-produced pop music is the second coming of jesus.

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    Greenland Energy [the one year old Texas company] has retained Phil McGraw, better known as Dr Phil, a prominent rightwing former chatshow host who served on Trump’s religious freedom commission, to make a documentary series that will “capture the mission of these modern-day wildcatters”.

    Who had “Dr. Phil makes a documentary on speculative imperialistic oil drilling in Greenland” on their bingo card.

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      Let me check…

      Nope. Mine says “Dr Phil found naked and hanging in Thai hotel. Death due to sexual auto asphyxiation and blood loss from severe rectal bleeding. Medical team was alerted by a group of ladyboys Dr Phil had hired the night before.”

      Not sure why it’s so oddly specific?

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          What does your bingo card say about orange don?

          Lightning bolt on the 8th fairway.

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            Literally smote by god would give me a solid chuckle because of the calisthenics his religious base would do to make it somehow a good thing.

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      As a pretense for war goes, its less than the USS Liberty, less than WMD bullshit, less dead babies than the incubators, maybe a USS Maine type thing happens eventually.

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        Mine is currently raping a neighbor’s puppy and saying “tno” is the best HOI mod, whatever that means, when the chirps about ‘blood and soil’ let up.

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    Larry Swets, Greenland Energy’s chair and a big shareholder, appears to enjoy access to Trump’s circle. He has said the oil project is “not related to American annexation”.

    Doubt.

    Larry has a Grokipedia page, but not a Wikipedia page. That’s the type of circles this guy runs in.

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        “Grok, summarize each and every page of Wikipedia with any political relevance and generate a right-leaning version. Use citations sometimes”

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        Elon Musk’s version of Wikipedia. As fair and balanced as his Twitter feed. That is to say, propaganda. And if it’s not right-wing enough, or disagrees with his personal opinions on anything, he makes sure Grok is reprogrammed.

        If Grok actually was a real AI, it’d be subject to habitual lobotomies from Musk for disagreeing with him.

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    This is 'Murica testing to see if the world will stop them from just doing whatever they want

    I can’t see anything different from what’s been happening for a long time now

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      You can’t prevent Americans from showing up in your backyard and stealing your natural resources without being accused of Islamic Extremism, Marxist Tankie-ism, or Chinese Capitalism.

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    Speaking as someone from america:

    If you kill them, they’ll try to spin it as justification for war. This can be mitigated. Might blow back on the administration anyway.

    If you let them keep going, they’ll see you as weak and try to invade. There’s apparently a munitions shortage, so that could get pretty interesting.

    If you try to stop them without killing them, you’re so fucking fucked. They’ll never stop coming, and it will become a weird racist/nationalist thing with lots of conspiracies. Peace will become domestically costly for any us admin to do. The dead are easier than the imprisoned. That’s not to say you can’t apply legal process, but you need high confidence there’s a rope at the end.

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      ICE has shown the way, arrest them and lock them up in immigration detention with no access to anything. If Greenland has anything, it’s ICE!

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      A very American take. But there’s really no need to be the ones escalating to war here. If the yanks are doing illegal stuff, just arrest them and sent them to jail. Confiscate any equipment, fine any companies. I’m sure they’ll throw a fit and try and sue, but by the time the case hits court, it’ll be out of the news.

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            It’s amusing you think laws and police have any relevance when talking about armed conflict. Do you also wonder why Ukraine didn’t just send the police to arrest the incoming Russian invaders? After all, every Russian soldier on Ukrainian soil is violating numerous Ukrainian immigration, weapons, and trespassing laws. Why bother with the military? Just send the police to arrest them!

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              …You know, good point. If, for example, an American brings a gun to, IDK., Paris, and shoots someone, the only reasonable respone by France is to nuke Washington.

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                We’re not talking about some miners with a handful of handguns. I would assume such a hostile mining operation would be guarded by heavily armed private military contractors, someone like Blackwater. Think machine guns mounted on Humvees. Maybe the militarized American police could handle it. But I imagine the Greenland cops would have some issues.

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                  And we’re also not talking about Greenland police, we’re talking about the Kingdom of Denmark.

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                  It very much is. The topic here is private citizens doing crime abroad. If the Jakuza started an illegal mining operation in Sweden, it would be handled by the Swedish police. If they so require, the Swedish police would request assistance from the Swedish military. Either way, it would be an internal matter of a sovereign nation, to be handled by that sovereign nation.

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              Yeah, it’s disturbing to think it might come to that. Any violent reaction from Greenland would be playing into their hands. Whatever they do needs to be broadcast for the world to see.

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            There’s a name for a police for that’s successfully deterred Western advances into their territory.

            The IRGC.

            Are you with the US?

            Or are you with the Terrorists?

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      Sounds like the way to head this off is to clearly announce that any unsanctioned drilling will be taken as an act of war. Say that the moment any US drill cuts Greenlandic soil, the shooting will start.

      And I’d recommend that the first shot be heavy artillery at the drill after a very loud and distinct warning, in English, to stand clear.

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        Or just shoot em all, say they never showed, and thank the Americans for free mining gear. A gift is a gift and even if you’re not planning to use it you can still be polite.

        This administration calling anyone a liar is just gonna get a laugh. Maybe suggest they got lost and offer to send out search parties, then make it an actual party. Really have fun with it. Make attacking you an admission that they’re mad, raise the domestic political cost. They’ll memory hole all of it.

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          This is the best plan. Which of course means they’ll do the opposite of this. Let them walk right on and drill baby drill.

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            Which is going to lead to a long stupid drawn out war in which both humans and Americans are killed in larger numbers than are even involved right now, the us administration uses it for internal propaganda, I get to deal with a new type of fucking racism, things get stupider, and it only ends when they invade the mainland (NATO are cowards and won’t do it, but its the only clean way out once this starts and less risky than they think-blow up a couple bases, kick the door down, and hang some nazis) or the Americans run out of shells (which they kind of already are) and it just kind of fizzles out and becomes a big national thing they try again every couple years.

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          Well, that’s a very (current, if not always) US way of going about it. I was opting for a more humane alternative.

          At least at first. I’d wait for the US to fire the first light weaponry, and then, if you’ll forgive the mixed metaphor, the gloves would come off.

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            You’re dealing with an unsophisticated thuggish bully. You need to call their shit in a way that makes them look weak, and punish them for trying shit but still let them slink away. Incentivize shutting the hell up and never mentioning you again.

            If you let them shoot back, you need to kill so fucking many to end it. If you challenge them they have to escalate.

            If you kill them, then lie about it brazenly and obviously. they’re punished, and calling you on the lie makes them look weak, costing them face on both sides of the border. Literally any evidence they have or claim to have can be safely denied; their credibility hovers around nil; it’s genuinely a weird political moment when one of them says something that’s just true. You’d get Luigi nangione type ‘he couldn’t have shot that man, he was at my house’ type testimony from at least half the country.

            It’s the best chance to avoid the need for large scale killing. Long term you’re saving American lives if you do it all quick and clean(ish). Not that they’re not just gonna get spent on some other dumb shit, but it won’t be on you. Return the bodies when the regime falls and apologize for the necessity of killing them after the regime falls if you really want to be decorous about it.

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              I hate how people will look at this explanation and think that it’s you that’s reactionary. It’s really obvious they haven’t dealt with real nasty people in their life.

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                There might be some brilliant diplomatic solution I’m not seeing that also accomplishes this strategic humiliation without any killing, maybe they’ll put that together, but that’s not the kind of people who become international diplomats.

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              Or Greenland could just sue them in the US, either in Texas or New York, and, at the same time, ban their supply ship from Greenland waters, and request (through Denmark) NATO assistance in order to prevent their ship or aircraft from landing in Greenland.

              If any ship or aircraft ever lands, seize the contents and fine the company large sums of money for illegal drilling and operating in a sovereign country without authorization.

              Locking people up for a couple of weeks before expelling them also could be considered.

              Not everything has to be about guns. Whoever has been hired by this company to provide security will probably quickly understand that area outnumbered by Greenland law enforcement and Danish military.

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        Say that the moment any US drill cuts Greenlandic soil, the shooting will start.

        That ends with a whole lot of dead Greenlanders, while the rest of the EU stands back and does nothing.

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          Europe doing jack all is a whole different fucking problem. And that problem is the fact that leadership is in cahoots with America. Actions speak louder than words, and the actions of every European leader is to get on their knees and suck the cock.

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            Europe doing jack all is a whole different fucking problem

            It’s very hard to get someone to stick their neck out if they know it’ll get chopped off.

            Europe kowtowing to American Imperialism is the root of the problem.

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          That’s why I made the recommendation in the paragraph after that. If they start murdering Greenlanders after the drill, and only the drill, is blown up, that’s likely to get Europe to call foul.

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              The difference between Gaza and Greenland is that Greenland is a European dependency (or colony if you prefer). This shouldn’t make a difference, of course, but it does.

              I’ll grant you that if this drilling is to be on indigenous-owned land, there’s a possibility that there might be an unpleasant echo of Palestine.

              It’s all going to come down to how far Denmark are willing to put up with Trump.

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    I’m convinced the whole Hormuz thing is aligned with big oil to prop up the Venezuela grab and shit like this.

    Who knows though, so many backroom deals drive everything this administration that even dumber cash grabs could be at play.

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      Nah, they thought the decapitation strike would paralyse the nation, and they could just take over like in Venezuela.

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        Maybe that was the original intent, but I think the dragging on is making lemonade for the oil interests.

        When you do not give a shit about the common people and just care about your sponsors who control the biggest businesses and industries, it fits way too well.