• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    No. They were firing at anything with a Western financial interest backing out too. So these were ships that never touched a Western shore but just had a part US owner.

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      10 months ago

      That doesn’t actually undercut my point. Yes, they carry important crap for the West too, and some amount amount of crap not ultimately for the West. It would still get there going via the Cape, and either way, the stakes are way higher for the Arabs than “more expensive stuff” and everyone knows it.

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        10 months ago

        So the entire middle east should just be a no go zone for shipping? I’m pretty sure the entire MENA area would blow up if we did that. It would ensure the SA/Iran war we’ve been avoiding for decades. Or, less worse case, Iran cuts the Houthis free and watches the rest of the region obliterate their former clients. Because the oil producing countries are absolutely not going to just stop exporting oil. The tourist countries are not going to accept a halt in cruise ships. And nobody wants to deal with bulk food import via land only.

        The Houthis fucked with the entire world. This is not just about going around or sticking it to some distant government without a local impact.

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          Lol, you really don’t like the Houthis. Why do you care? It’s a little ethnic paramilitary, like a bajillion others all across the MENA area and other unstable regions.

          No, I’d say they should keep parking warships in the area and eating all the missiles. It’s expensive as all get out, but said Gulf contries would be obliterated by mass bombardment on the first day if the region really goes boom, and a few more weeks to let things settle and ship Anthony Blinken around would have been great.

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            10 months ago

            I don’t give a fuck about pirates. I care about disingenuous arguments. Including that them shooting at international ships is an effective or moral way to protest Israeli actions.

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              10 months ago

              Well you’re in luck then, because I don’t think it is either. Maybe they’d have a leg to stand on if they were actually Israeli ships, but it sounds like they’ve been attacking random ones and then declaring them Israeli. It’s a stunt, and now the West is making it look even better.

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                10 months ago

                We can’t let it go though. They’ve effectively blocked the suez canal for the entire world. Everything from food aid to toys.

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                10 months ago

                they’ve been attacking random ones and then declaring them Israeli.

                A tactic I’d expect out of Israel, ironically

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                  10 months ago

                  Lying is universal, and lying about the thing you attacked is trendy this century.

                  I wonder if the decision makers in this case knew it was a lie from the start, of if their intelligence people were giving them what they wanted to find. Or maybe both, like the Iraqi WMDs.

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                    10 months ago

                    The intelligence agencies were never the problem with Iraqi WMDs. They said the weapons might exist, but they could not conclusively confirm it. The Bush Administration lied about it and said the intelligence agencies called it a certainty.

                    But I digress, I get what you mean.