• KoofNoof@lemmy.world
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    It’s democrats ranking states based off their policies, so of course the Republican states will all be at the bottom lol.

    Headline should be: “Democrats say Republican states are worst states to live in”.

    We should be posting political articles that aren’t clickbait echo chamber propaganda. Don’t let this become Reddits /r/politics, which was REALLY /r/democrats

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      You didn’t even read their metrics did you? It’s based on crime rates, healthcare, quality of health, etc. Those are pretty objective measures, and ones that republican-controlled states often fight against (see: reluctance to expand medicaid).

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        Here’s a completely unbiased excerpt about the “worst” state of Texas:

        The Lone Star State keeps hacking away at inclusiveness, with laws targeting the LGBTQ+ population, voting rights, and the nation’s strictest abortion ban. Yes, there are enormous economic opportunities in Texas, and it is attracting people from far and wide. But this state also has some Texas-sized issues when it comes to life, health and inclusion. And it is one of the reasons that the state fell out of the overall top five for the first time in the 16-year history of CNBC’s rankings.

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            Just that the article happens to align “good” with the Democratic party’s top social stances. I find it extremely hard to believe that the state that left-leaning people are flocking to is the worst in the nation.

            Look, I’m all for equal rights for everyone and the government staying out of people’s personal lives. I just don’t want the constant propaganda.

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              The propaganda… of judging based on those metrics you supposedly support?

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                It’s propaganda because it’s dismissing the idea that it’s generally a good state to move to economically. Lots of new high value companies setting up shop provide employment opportunities in a state where there is still land to develop.

                I mean, Texas would be too hot for me but it seems a little suspicious that there is not a worse state in the union than Texas according to this.

                By all means, if you can objectively come to the same conclusion as the article, great! I just don’t trust the validity of their findings and therefore categorize it as propaganda.

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                  Just because there are opportunities doesn’t mean they are good opportunities. And even if there are good opportunities, they don’t necessarily comprise all of them. Just enough to draw in some skilled workers (who are still exploited, just better compensated).

                  But that’s beside the point. The implication of your comment is that the social issues are the ones that comprise the propaganda, not the economic ones. Just because you pivot to something else doesn’t suddenly mean you didn’t make that argument.

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                  You can call it whatever you want, just know that you are badly misusing the word. Propaganda does not mean “anything I disagree with.” Never has.

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              Says the guy bleating conservative propaganda.

              Respect for all is not a liberal propaganda conspiracy.

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            Your identity is your business, just keep it for yourself instead of trying to abuse women and remove their rights then you’ll become a better person

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                No one cares what you “identify” as. Identify as a turkey for all anyone cares. The problem is with coerced speech and trying to invade sex-specific places and events.

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                  Coerced speech? Invading? Boy that does sound scary.

                  You have any other completely imaginary strawmen we should be hypothetically scared of?

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                    Coerced speech like how some places are now looking at making “misgendering” and “using the wrong pronouns” illegal.

                    Not sure what word other than “invading” you would user for biological men going in to places designed specifically only for biological women?

                    Do you even know what a strawman is?

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          Um. Yes. It fucking SUCKS to be a woman, LGBTQ+ + community member, or a minority here in Texas. Good luck if you’re all 3.

          This state is a steaming pile of shit and a blight on America. I wish it would secede, but only after the government offers refugee status to those of us who are sane and want to leave.

          Then Texas can take its misogynistic, racist, bigoted, xenophobic self and go create its own country. And it can take Florida with it!

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              Agreed. I was here for the 2021 Snowpocalypse. Bruh, idk how it was in more rural or northern parts of Texas, but in San Antonio the amount of snow was laughable for shutting the major metropolitan area down like it did.

              I was on call for my job and I had to go in three times, and other than under the overpasses where the snow melted and then froze, driving was a non-issue. And yet…businesses were shut down while we all suffered through the rolling blackouts.

              My husband and I were lucky, we were getting 15 mins of electricity every hour or so. Other friends were getting 3-5 mins sporadically. I could at least boil our eggs to eat throughout the week.

              And now with this heat wave, all over the place ERCOT is advising Texans to keep the thermostat at 80. And certain areas have gone through more rolling blackouts because the grid can’t sustain the AC draw. I’m flabbergasted at this state.

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        It’s mostly influenced by abortion and trans gender policies though. It’s click bait and political click bait.

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      “Something bad said against Republicans is propaganda” doesn’t sound fascist at all, huh?

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      Can you provide a ranking where you would say these states would come out top? What kind of metric would you like to see being used?

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        Ok, let’s be objective and use the “Republican-biased” business website state rankings that took its rankings from WalletHub and focuses on the BEST states for “affordability, economy, education/health, quality of life and safety”.

        Holy shit, liberal darling, land of Romneycare, Massachusetts is #1. Followed by…New Jersey…and…New York.

        https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/best-states-america-live-this-year-report

        Maybe Fox Business isn’t conservative enough anymore? I guess I need to start looking on the Q-Anon forums for a state ranking.

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        I don’t feel like doing enough data analysis to get a perfect flip of these 10 being on top, but you could use criteria like low tax rates, abortion restrictions, and loose gun laws, and get a pretty solid inverse list.

        The better question is what value do these lists have outside of getting a bunch of people who already agree with it circle jerking over how the incredibly biased list proves they’re right?

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      I suppose that’s the only reasonable explanation that doesn’t involve rethinking anything.

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      You had me in the first half.

      It is skewed and should say that it’s terrible for liberals, not MAGA folks

      You lost me at /r/politics being a democratic e ho chamber. That’s silly. Sounds like you might be happier in truth social.