• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    12 hours ago

    I’m sure Marx’ sugar daddy was very important for him.

    Connotations exist. Why else would you phrase it this way? Why not just say sponsor, like I did? You said it’s a joke, so that means there must be humor to it, right, and not just a literal older person (who was younger, actually) giving money?

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      12 hours ago

      Why else would you phrase it this way?

      Because Marx was financially dependent on Engels. As people with sugar daddies often are.

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          10 hours ago

          Are jokes not communist enough for you or something? It was funny and you’ve spent WAY too much time not just laughing at the funny joke. Maybe friends are a bit much for someone terminally online but you’ve never picked up a tab or bought something for someone and had them joke that you’re their sugar daddy?

          Engels was very much Marx’s sugar daddy as everyone would use the phase when joking about someone else paying someones way.

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            2 hours ago

            The implication was that Engels was a piece of shit and that he contributed nothing but money to Marx, in exchange for sexual favors. There’s a wide gulf between a joke between friends, and someone using the term in a pejorative manner towards someone they don’t like.

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          12 hours ago

          The power dynamic is funnier that way. It implies an infantilisation of Marx and that he was only friends with Engels because of the money.

          There, you’ve made me explain my own joke. I hope you’re happy. /s

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            2 hours ago

            It also implies that he gave sexual favors for them too, based on popular connotation. There are other ways to get across your same joke without using the loaded term “sugar daddy.”

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              1 hour ago

              I literally told you why I wrote what I wrote and you still act as if you’re the arbiter of meaning on every uord I utter.

              And again: Why. Should. Anyone. Care. If. Marx. And. Engels. Fucked?

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                59 minutes ago

                I already explained, I just personally dislike it when people make jokes about two people fucking in a pejorative manner.

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                  54 minutes ago

                  Yeah, I personally dislike it if people don’t have the guts to call me a liar and hide behind their arbitrary definitions that suit their point best. So I guess we’re all unhappy now.

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                    26 minutes ago

                    I’m not hiding begind “arbitrary definitions,” the definition you gave literally agreed with me. Historically, that’s the most relevant usage of the term.

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            10 hours ago

            It’s not funny and you didn’t intend it to be funny, you clearly intended it to be derogatory