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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 3 days ago

Liberals : REEEEEEEEE

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Liberals : REEEEEEEEE

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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 3 days ago
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  • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one
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    23 hours ago

    Let’s start with: governments are untrustworthy being made of people

    So who told you china is trustworthy?

    • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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      So who told you china is trustworthy?

      The Chinese people. Non-anecdotal evidence, from an anglo source:

      • In contrast to low US political approval ratings, 96% of Chinese are satisfied with the national government (Edelmans 2016). World Values Surveys says that 83% think the country is run for their benefit rather than for the benefit of special groups. A Harvard research center study of long-term public opinion survey finds that > 95% of Chinese citizens approved their government. How is this possible in a one-party state? (TED talk by Eric X Li)
      • The real wage (IE the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country. This is staggering considering it’s the most populous country on the planet. The US real wage by comparison is lower in 2019 than it was in 1973.
      • CGTN documentary - China’s war on poverty
      • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one
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        These all sound good for the Chinese as a people, my question was about the government being trustworthy in what it tells people.

        1st and 3rd links seem potentially good, the wage increase…you must know that’s a terrible comparison.

  • gecko@lemmy.ml
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    only one of the governments is run by a bunch of pedophiles being blackmailed by mossad

  • Empathy [he/him]@beehaw.org
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    Is it just the US saying not to trust the Chinese government?

    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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      The US and our lackeys, yes

      • Empathy [he/him]@beehaw.org
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        Who are those lackeys?

      • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one
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        But don’t you define lackeys as being people who also say china isn’t trustworthy? Ie it’s a circular logic you seem to got there, based on past ml experiences.

        • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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          It would only be circular if their agreement on China was the sole indication of their subservience to US interests, that is not the case

          • Empathy [he/him]@beehaw.org
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            22 hours ago

            what are some of the other indicators?

            • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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              12 hours ago

              US military bases

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    Both countries have their issues, but certainly Xi Jinping is more trustworthy than Donald Trump.

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      that is a very high bar, as they say in the limbo biz.

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    Could it perhaps be, I don’t know, the entire rest of the world calling out China’s own genocides?

    And no, the US has no leg to stand on when it comes to stamping out ethnic groups, especially Muslims. So?

    • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      NATO countries are not “the rest of the world.” Previously.

    • bubblybubbles@lemmy.mlOP
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      Yeah, another .world lib who screeches about the ChInESe GeNoCiDes. Its all empire fabricated to push the china bad line of propaganda

    • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one
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      And this post is a great example of how the democrats shifted further and further to the right wing.

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      Crazy how the genocide number is now multiple with just as many sources as before

    • Horse {they/them}@lemmygrad.ml
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      entire rest of the world

      China’s own genocides

      citation needed

  • JandroDelSol@lemmy.world
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    I mean, all government sponsored sources are going to be biased. No media should be trusted wholesale

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      Soviet Union was making news about extermination camps during WW2 and Westerner media blocked those news because of COMMIE propaganda. US lifted the block only when they reached the German mainland. SU was reporting from Poland at that time.

      So, your argument is invalidated. We need to look for governments who people put theirs trust on.

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    He said he doesn’t trust both the US and China, he never says someone told him anything. I’m thinking false dilemma?

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    Everybody Sucks Here. I experience it first hand on a daily basis.

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    Who told you not to trust anything China says?

    My inherent distrust of authorities?

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      Do you also distrust climate scientists? Doctors? I think you should hold healthy skepticism for claims, but to outright distrust anything China says just because they have a state is overkill.

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    Ask the Chinese government what happened 3 June 1989.

    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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      Get new material

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      Was that the Kent State Massacre?

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      Tell us, what happened?

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      You haven’t

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    A stopped clock is right twice a day. America has a terrible and corrupt government, but that doesn’t mean they’re wrong about not trusting china’s government.

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      And how did you determine that?

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        US told them

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          “Gonna need to see a source from a white country before I’ll believe anything positive about China, the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba. If it ain’t white, it ain’t right.”

          • Average anglophone media enjoyer

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