• lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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    9 hours ago

    Witnesses who are too far away to see their identification can still see their face to ID them. Undercover cops are a different situation than what ICE is doing and really shouldn’t be making arrests IMO. In winter they can take their mask off to interact with people.

    If we ban law enforcement from wearing masks, that opens the door to banning masks in public.

    It doesn’t. The general public doesn’t need to be identifiable at all times like cops do.

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      9 hours ago

      Witnesses who are too far away to see their identification can still see their face to ID them.

      Sure, I just don’t think that’s a reasonable thing to require at all times.

      Instead, the public should be free to approach to a safe distance to film, and then attempt to talk with law enforcement when safe. A police officer is required to identify themselves to the suspect due to the fourth amendment. Whether they are required to identify themselves to the public is up to local law, court precedent, and agency policy.

      The general public doesn’t need to be identifiable at all times like cops do.

      Neither do. Police only need to be identifiable when using their authority, such as when making an arrest or dealing with protests, and in the latter case, only agency affiliation is necessary.

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        3 hours ago

        Sure, I just don’t think that’s a reasonable thing to require at all times.

        It is. There’s literally no reason they ever need to be masked.

        Neither do. Police only need to be identifiable when using their authority, such as when making an arrest or dealing with protests, and in the latter case, only agency affiliation is necessary.

        Disagree. Police serve the public. If they are working they should all be identifiable so they can’t step out of line. Especially during protests. Otherwise we end up with priest getting shot in the eyes with pepper rounds.

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          2 hours ago

          There’s literally no reason they ever need to be masked.

          Cops have rights too. If an officer wants to wear a mask, I don’t see any reason to deny them that. They must, however, identify themselves, the risk of someone pretending to be law enforcement is too great.

          Police serve the public. If they are working they should all be identifiable

          Agreed, I just don’t think masks are the issue here. IMO, officers involved in protest duty should have their badge number on their uniform in a big enough font for a camera to pick up. Likewise, body cameras should be on and recording the entire time.