Isn’t it? You seem to know more about “them” than i do.
. . . to get them to be more democratic in their selection of leadership, something else, or a combination of some or all of these things.
And how would they be in a position to do any of those things, for good or ill? I reiterate that it’s via the electoral methods I mentioned.
It was desperate flailing of a demoralized subset of people.
It was self-sabotage, pure and simple. There was never any other outcome possible.
It’s been a motherfucking year and we’re needed in the voting booths again.
Indeed. Any why the fuck has it been a motherfucking year? It’s a goddamned mystery isn’t it! Holy shit if only someone could have fucking forseen it!
Do you want these “idiots” to sit out again or do you want them to back the not-fascists and maybe steer the country a bit toward sanity?
If these idiots are true to form they will fail us again regardless of who or what is offered. Because where we are is exactly where everyone said we would and it mattered sweet fuckall to them.
Honestly, I suspect many of you people who won’t fucking get over it are actually just fascists trying to stir shit up and discourage people from voting.
Certainly I have been called that and worse - *gasp* bourgeoise! - for demanding Americans who are eligible to vote do so because it’s their right, their privilege, and their duty to do so. And if that discourages people from voting, I don’t know what to tell you.
And how would they be in a position to do any of those things, for good or ill? I reiterate that it’s via the electoral methods I mentioned.
Your view of politics is extremely narrow and simple or you’re continuing to argue in bad faith. Campaigns don’t happen in a vacuum and suddenly you’re handed a ballot.
Holy shit if only someone could have fucking forseen it!
You missed my point entirely. My point is you are beating a dead horse and achieving nothing, save for maybe making yourself feel superior?
And if that discourages people from voting, I don’t know what to tell you.
There’s nothing to say. You listen about as well as you think “those idiots” listen and you appear incapable of empathy or compassion. There’s no point in discussing this any further.
My view of political elections is very practical. The sloganeering, ads, gaffes, and endorsements are done. There’s only the actual mechanics of it left.
And that horse is far from dead. Go to the progressivepolitics comm and see for yourself. We’ve got one year left to carry a majority in one or more houses. However that’s supposed to happen, it needs to happen.
You listen about as well as you think “those idiots” listen and you appear incapable of empathy or compassion. There’s no point in discussing this any further.
I have no idea what you think is supposed to happen to help the situation but if it doesn’t involve soundly defeating republicans then you might as well be living in a fascist hellscape which is what we said this time last year to the jeering jabbering of those who were too pure to vote Harris. It’s extremely fucking simple.
Isn’t it? You seem to know more about “them” than i do.
And how would they be in a position to do any of those things, for good or ill? I reiterate that it’s via the electoral methods I mentioned.
It was self-sabotage, pure and simple. There was never any other outcome possible.
Indeed. Any why the fuck has it been a motherfucking year? It’s a goddamned mystery isn’t it! Holy shit if only someone could have fucking forseen it!
If these idiots are true to form they will fail us again regardless of who or what is offered. Because where we are is exactly where everyone said we would and it mattered sweet fuckall to them.
Certainly I have been called that and worse - *gasp* bourgeoise! - for demanding Americans who are eligible to vote do so because it’s their right, their privilege, and their duty to do so. And if that discourages people from voting, I don’t know what to tell you.
Your view of politics is extremely narrow and simple or you’re continuing to argue in bad faith. Campaigns don’t happen in a vacuum and suddenly you’re handed a ballot.
You missed my point entirely. My point is you are beating a dead horse and achieving nothing, save for maybe making yourself feel superior?
There’s nothing to say. You listen about as well as you think “those idiots” listen and you appear incapable of empathy or compassion. There’s no point in discussing this any further.
My view of political elections is very practical. The sloganeering, ads, gaffes, and endorsements are done. There’s only the actual mechanics of it left.
And that horse is far from dead. Go to the progressivepolitics comm and see for yourself. We’ve got one year left to carry a majority in one or more houses. However that’s supposed to happen, it needs to happen.
I have no idea what you think is supposed to happen to help the situation but if it doesn’t involve soundly defeating republicans then you might as well be living in a fascist hellscape which is what we said this time last year to the jeering jabbering of those who were too pure to vote Harris. It’s extremely fucking simple.