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  • Tinidril@midwest.social
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    2 days ago

    I’m sympathetic to your argument, but ultimately they absolutely are fascist. If you doubt me, then to ask a Palestinian. There is very little that the Trump regime is doing that the Democrats weren’t doing less obnoxiously and on a much slower timescale.

    We can’t keep accepting the lesser evil indefinitely. When you brush off the serious issues in the Democratic party with language like “no saints” you make it look like that’s exactly what you intend for the country to do. I mean “politicians will be politicians”. That’s not convincing anymore.

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      2 days ago

      If you doubt me, then to ask a Palestinian.

      Just to clarify this to others:

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      There is very little that the Trump regime is doing that the Democrats weren’t doing less obnoxiously and on a much slower timescale.

      That part is important. I hear you about “the lesser evil” but if you’re response to resisting a lesser evil results in a faster, accelerated evil then you have contributed to a much greater harm. If you doubt me, ask a Palestinian if they are better off with Democrats not having any power.

      • تحريرها كلها ممكن@lemmy.ml
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        If you doubt me, ask a Palestinian if they are better off with Democrats not having any power.

        Biden was in power when the genocide started and during most of it. He had the power to stop it and didn’t. So there’s your answer.

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                9 hours ago

                Swapping faces changes nothing. The rot starts with the DNC and without a formal apology for enabling the genocide the party is dead to me just like the Republicans. Two corpses fighting it out and I am not into necrophilia.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Biden could have stopped it

                  Use better language then.

                  he party is dead to me just like the Republicans. Two corpses fighting it out

                  On the corpse people are living on. Americans throwing up their hands and saying “both are dead to me” just accelerates the rot. In all these posts of people insisting trying to minimize damage is unethical I haven’t seen a single one trying to push for an alternative or a fucking solution.

                  “Everything is bad and if you get involved in any way you are evil. If you are a good person then do nothing, that is how you stop evil from succeeding.”

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        2 days ago

        Palestinians have been a victim of genocide since 1948. Biden send cops to beat down pro-Palestinian student protestors, Bill Clinton went to Dearborn and talked about Samaria & Judea, a thousand democrat voters cackled on twitter wishing violence on gaza after holocaust harris lost.

        Genocide and Empire is bipartisan politics and we will destroy both of them. Lies must make place for truth and empires mush perish.

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          1 day ago

          OP just said that under Trump the genocide is happening faster and you don’t consider that worse off?

      • Tinidril@midwest.social
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        To put it differently, if they are the proximate cause of the Trump presidency, then you are the ultimate cause. I throw up my hands at trying to decide which matters more.

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        1 day ago

        That’s the part where I’m sympathetic to your argument. I think anyone not voting for Harris made a mistake. I also think the arguments people like you made for people to vote for Harris were really really bad and that you are enabling the Democrats to continue down a terrible path of failure.

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          I also think the arguments people like you made for people to vote for Harris were really really bad and that you are enabling the Democrats to continue down a terrible path of failure.

          The argument I made for people to vote for Harris was that this is exactly what will happen if Trump wins, and 3 months before an election is not the time to try to get a viable alternative. Harris sucked, her campaign was shit, but the alternative is running the predictable course.

          Now is an excellent time to work on a viable alternative, but saying “both are the same” is disingenuous, and is not actually putting an alternative forward.