When asked by a reporter why he would not ask Congress for a declaration of war, he replied: “I think we’re just gonna kill people. Okay? We’re gonna kill them. They’re gonna be, like, dead.”
He added: “The land is going to be next. And we may go to the Senate; we may go to the Congress and tell them about it, but I can’t imagine they’d have any problem with it."
Fuck I hate this guy so much. Can’t even call a Nazi tyrant war criminal a Nazi tyrant war criminal.
BTW I don’t agree with Candace Owens on anything else, but I don’t think her claims that Trump may have been involved in Charlie Kirk’s assassination (or at least allowed it to happen) are exactly “unhinged,” when he’s comfortable openly saying this kind of shit to the fucking press. If he can talk openly about just murdering people on a whim, if he can release an official memo that very much implies he plans to do the same for any American citizen who disagrees with him, why would it be “unhinged,” to think he’s capable of something like that?
He wouldn’t be able to keep his mouth shut, if there is a conspiracy it’s coming from the puppeteers; Stephen Miller, Roger Stone, Susie Wiles, etc.
It’s always seems so weird to me that the night Charlie Kirk was murdered, he called him a “martyr for free speech.” Then he started cracking down on free speech and framing it as terrorist activity.
Then he literally bragged “we took away the freedom of speech.”
I think if there was some kind of conspiracy to allow it to happen, then everybody in his administration is aware of it. Hours before he was murdered, the Senate finance committee asked Scott Bessant why he wouldn’t release the bank records for several banks including JP Morgan, regarding Epstein and people like Peter Thiel.
Then Republicans in both the House and Senate blocked an attempt by Democrats to subpoena those records, but nobody even noticed bc everybody was paying attention to the assassination.
So many wealthy and powerful people were desperately in need of a big distraction that day. Not only did it work to distract, it allowed them a BS reason to claim they had to crack down on the left and any opposition.
Can we please do the right thing here and convict this man of war crimes. Even if he’s already dead when allegedly sane people get back in power, they need to sue the shit out of his remaining trusts and kids for corruption, bribery etc.
He’ll declare war before the midterms and claim that there can’t be elections while the US is at war.
shame we held open and fair elections during every war we’ve had in the past, including civil war
Learning from Russia
Well, from Ukraine, though an actual war is occurring. Russia are more than happy to hold elections since they’re rigged anyway.
Ukraine has a different constitution than us, with provisions for suspending elections during war. We do not have any such provisions in our constitution.
Sure.
Willie Nelson’s not going to like that. Venezuela is tough to rhyme.
Thanks for the wag the dog reference.
A war is a two-way conflict. No way they want that.
Nobel Peace Prize material right there, folks.
I hear you WTF
Totally sane approach to winning it as well
He’s going to build a desolation and call it a peace.
Imagine if Obama said “We’re just going to kill people” in any context. I hate this shit so much.
To be fair…Obama did “just kill people” by the thousands.
Liberals like Obama because he did it while keeping a low profile so they could keep their conscious clean.
MAGA like Trump cuz he gloats about it so they can revel in it.
conscience
Where the fuck did I say I liked Obama.
When you hear people insult liberals do you always take it personally?
Maybe go back to the original comment for this thread and read usernames
They were clearly responding to the person who instinctively jumped to defend Obama, if you look at the usernames, he was clearly not taking to you…
That person absolutely wasn’t defending Obama. They were clearly calling him out, likely for his drone strikes.
Wasn’t even directed at anyone in particular, just stating the observation.
I know you were at the top, what I don’t understand is why you thought my comment was directed at you.
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Every US president practically has.
This is pretty much why the Supreme Court ruled that a president’s actions cannot be considered illegal, when performed in the name of their official capacity as president. They didn’t just give Trump the authority to violate the law…they retroactively gave it to every other president that has committed atrocities during their time in office.
In a twisted sort of way, they were affirming what’s already considered established precedent.
I thought Obama had congressional approval for all his military actions.
That’s not just killing people, it’s part of the job of being president: executing the will of the republic. What Trump is doing is very different.
Obama was really just piggy-backing on previous “approvals”. He was also conducting drone strikes wherever he felt like…in or out of active war scenarios. It was also all based on shadowy intelligence, and done without any due process for those he killed. All in the name of the Republic…just like how Trump is claiming his actions are.
So…not much different.
Congress approved military strikes in the entire middle east region under Bush. Even if the strikes weren’t in active war zones, they were approved uses of military force. Trump has no such authority for his strikes on boats in the Pacific and Caribbean.
I agree that the authorizations granted under Bush were bullshit and tantamount to war crimes, but the actions of the president is starkly different.
Do you care to name an incident, so we can compare?
Yes, I see, lots of parallels there.
Apparently Trump is quite a fan of drone strikes too:
There have been 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama’s eight years in office,
That Trump is worse does not trivialize the fact.
No, but it is telling that trump then, according to these number, killed 4x more people in 2x less time
Both numbers suffice that either men should be in an ICC prison
And highlights the reason why the US doesn’t acknowledge the authority of the ICC.
Yeah I’m not arguing with you on this just sharing information I found.
If my math is right, that’s not by the thousands. That’s by the tens.
Roughly %10 casualty rate. That’s dog shit 💩
Dawg is he actively trying to launch into an actual emergency or war to try to hold on to power? Looks like it.
Yeah. He tried to get into a war with Iran in term 1. He “predicted/projected” Obama would start a war to increase his polling to get reelected. So we know he thinks this way
All of the above.
He is trying to create a justification for enacting martial law and increased control over the domestic population. “Venezuelan gangs” are simultaneously the excuse for blowing up civilian boats while also being the excuse for making ICE increasingly militant.
He seemingly wants to recreate the conditions of WWII where the military was used to round up Japanese-American people into concentration camps. Except this time it is to round up Latinos. For now they go after undocumented immigrants. Then start the war. Then round up anybody who is brown by labeling them as gang sympathizers
He’s also wanting Venezuela to declare war first.
Whelp, rip - see y’all in the gulags.
Terrorism is the unlawful use of violence or the threat of violence against people or property to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government, often to further political or social objectives. It can be categorized as international, involving foreign groups, or domestic, driven by domestic social or political issues.
Dictators don’t even say that shit out loud.
He’s not smart. Even for a dictator. And the bar’s pretty fucking low there.
This guy is so dumb, man.
As if “we’ll just kill people” isn’t just a declaration of war. 🙄
The US hasn’t technically been at war since WW2 by US definition technicalities, a system that many Americans seem to enjoy stating when talking about the millions of people killed by the US military and allies since in various invasions and occupations
it’s like the opposite of “i declare bankruptcy!”
in order to distract from the files, he would have to declare war like Nixon did.
What war did Nixon start
He may not have started it, but he most certainly made sure the Vietnam war continued.
Wiki Direct US military involvement in Vietnam escalated from 1965 until its withdrawal in 1973. Nixon left office in '74
This is like saying Obama started the US war in Afghanistan. He didn’t end it but he also sure didn’t start it.
Uh, the war on cancer? Maybe you’ve heard of it? (Read with sarcasm level 7, 7.5)
No,YOU are going to kill people.
”He loved to watch people burn, the way their skin blackened and blistered and melted off their bones. He burned lords he didn’t like, he burned Hands who disobeyed him. He burned anyone who was against him. Before long, half the country was against him. Aerys saw traitors everywhere.”
Shit is that the Mad King?
That’s Stephen Miller’s inner monologue
“Just” 🤦🤦🤦
Declaring war is a boring, formal process that acknowledges authority other than himself, of course he doesn’t want to do it. Why do all of that when he already has the thrill of ordering the deaths of random civilians and having the footage streamed live to him while he scarfs down a McDouble? If he wants to send in a Marine division he’ll just say go do it, who’s going to stop him?
The only people that could stop him would be the Marines. But they signed up to kill people, so they’re in agreement.
They can kill…not Venezuelan’s…
I’d acquit.
renames Department of Defense back to Department of War
declines to actually declare war
What is even the point, then? Ignoring the whole “only Congress can declare war” part, of course, but it’s not like that’s going to be a particular difficult hurdle for the regime.
The point of pretending to change the name of the department was so Petey could pretend to be a big tough warrior in front of all the army guys.
It’s theatrics and make-believe, because Republicans live in a fantasy of their own imagination
Foreign policy: “Whatever”
you know, in comparison dubya at least tried to have this kind of diplomatic subtlety that is nowhere to be found in current administration
Cheney/Dubya laid a lot of the groundwork for the fascist wave currently swamping the USA
i mean it would be hard to imagine 20 years ago precise ways things could get worse, and then
Disagree; the Patriot Act had plenty of easily determinable ways things could and did get worse.
Exactly. The people who were warning others about it were also dismissed as ‘overreacting’, just like what’s going on now.
