We do steal every time. Somewhat around the amount everything went more expensive.
Not because we need to, but out of principle. Mostly around 20% of what we buy.
We are old and don’t look stereotypical enough, so we never get controlled.
They rob us, we rob back. It’s only fair.
And yes, we know it’s not the shops that rob us, but the manufacturers. But we can’t rob a factory.
Needless to say, we’d never steal in a small mom&pops. Just the big stinky chains.
Samesies! My partner isn’t vegan, so whenever I’m buying food for him, I just so happen to pull it a bit too quick over the self-checkout scanner so I guess it doesn’t scan, oops 🥺
at the wm here, if you even look at the scanner cross-eyed, it sounds the alarms and halts the register until the babysitter can come over, review the footage and unlock it. if anything passes anywhere in the cameras’ very wide fov and a scan isn’t registered… anything… it stops.
they got sam’s club-like checkers at the exits, now, too. anything not in a bag gets ‘checked’… at least that’s what we’ve concluded is their criteria, based on when we have been stopped trying to leave.
me thinks they’ve had a slight uptick in ‘customer-applied discounts’ lately.
in the UK they weigh the baggage area and if you don’t scan something it’ll shout “UNEXPECTED ITEM IN THE BAGGAGE AREA” as loud as the mf beep and you get publicly shamed by all the whiter than white old people.
anyone who puts bags outside the weighing area gets looked at too, there’s no real way round without going for the old pockets
Interesting. Where are the weighs? Do you HAVE to out your bag on a special place?
I wonder we don’t have that yet too.
But then again, overworked and understaffed. Noone cares if anything beeps or not. Even if the door-alarms go off, nothing happens. In no store, ever. It’s just that the vast majority of Germans are so obedient, they instantly stop, go to the next employee and explain themselves.
Certain grocery chains in Canada employ these types of self checkout scanners. Every item is weighed, your bags need to be on the scale from the start and there’s a camera over each checkout.
Yes you do have to put your bag in a special place. If you dont, and the item you scanned (which they already know much it weighs) wont add to the total weight of the scales and it won’t let you scan another item or pay.
It’s effectively impossible to accidentally steal something.
They beep so fucking loud here, this would not fly well with a cashier (or can) that watches well 😁
But we came up with different ways to do it over time. And yes, self checkout mostly, but we also do it at register if we have to.
The most brazen one was a whole fucking door we drove by the cashier while my wife distracted him with questions and her charme 😁
We should not be proud of that, but we are. We probably wouldn’t even have noticed the price hikes. But I absolutely despise that they force you to pay more for things you can’t boycott. I can just not buy a car, but I can’t not buy food to protest.
Fucking greed.
Yeah, we still laugh about that. “How the fuck did we manage to loose a fucking door? Noone just goes out here with a door for fucks sake. Count again!” 😊
…while we paid for the hinges 😁
Sometime it’s really simple: if you just do it as if you’re allowed to do it, noone questions it.
Like going right into spaces you’re not supposed to go, if you’re wearing something orange, a screwdriver or whatever else and just fucking go there as if you own the place.
The places I’ve been to without ever been questioned, including ceos offices or treasuries or…just because suit and laptop in hand. I was actually allowed but I was never ever questioned or stopped. Might be my nasty resting bitch face, I dunno 😁
might work, but that’s a bit of overkill. I prefer sleigh-of-hand or simply not scanning many things. People are already overworked and understaffed, noone’s gonna check anyway. The cameras are just scare-tactics too.
Are you Uncle Leo?
On a tangent, I just found out that Len Lesser was not only quite handsome in his younger years, he was also an extra in one of my favorite movies, the original “Papillon.”
Your local Kroger isn’t robbing you. Neither are their suppliers in general, but even so you are not punishing them by shoplifting. The store already paid the producer for it regardless of whether the item is sold or stolen, meaning they don’t care either way.
If you want to steal, that’s your prerogative, but don’t pretend that you’re morally justified to take out your frustrations on someone unrelated.
Yeah they went from like 1-2% to like 5%… Which for a grocery store is insane and I precedented. Normal grocery stores have never been good profits. In 100 years they all basically barely break even
So to see them actually turn a profit is fucking unheard of
A few specialists grocery stores have better margins but it’s rare.
Whatever a “Kroger” might be, but luckily the world has morally intact people like you!
And I’m not frustrated, it’s not about the money, it’s the principle. Someone in the chain did raise prices for items I can’t boycott, I don’t care who. Also I don’t need justification. To whom should I justity? to you? lol.
Kroger is a supermarket chain in much of the US, but some of their stores use different branding. I just meant it to be a recognizable example of somewhere you might get your groceries.
And I’m not frustrated, it’s not about the money, it’s the principle.
When I said frustrated, I meant in a general sense about the economy, as in higher grocery prices. But I guess I did misunderstand your motivation for this. So it’s not about how much suppliers/stores are actually charging, just that they raised prices at all? And you view that as stealing?
Someone in the chain did raise prices for items I can’t boycott, I don’t care who.
And I guess that’s the problem in my eyes. If you intend to punish someone, it should be focussed on whoever is responsible. I’m sure you would agree it is unreasonable to yell at a cashier when your card gets declined for example. I’m also skeptical that you can’t boycott, but without specifics I’ll have to take your word for it.
Also I don’t need justification. To whom should I justity? to you? lol.
I judged you because you shared this with other people on the thread, which I view as inviting feedback. But you are right that my opinion isn’t important. What matters is that you can justify your actions to yourself. Whatever your morals are, I doubt it includes indiscriminate punishment. Maybe ask yourself things like, “What would it be like if everyone acted the way I do?” or “Will this lead to things getting better or worse?”.
The good news is you don’t actually have to go to a Kroger.
You can go to any of: Bakers, City Market, Dillons, Food4Less, frys, Foods Co, Fred Myer, Gerber Market, Harris Market, Jay C, King Super, Mariano’s, Metro Market, PayLess, QFC, Ralphs, Ruler Foods, or Smith’s food and drug, and steal from them.
We do steal every time. Somewhat around the amount everything went more expensive. Not because we need to, but out of principle. Mostly around 20% of what we buy. We are old and don’t look stereotypical enough, so we never get controlled.
They rob us, we rob back. It’s only fair. And yes, we know it’s not the shops that rob us, but the manufacturers. But we can’t rob a factory. Needless to say, we’d never steal in a small mom&pops. Just the big stinky chains.
Turns out the USA never left the Wild Wild West age.
The hand of the market is doing the lifts
If laws don’t apply for the rich, get fucked, they don’t apply for me either. Fuck your system.
Aye, simple as that.
not with that attitude!
You’re right, we just lack dedication 😫
Samesies! My partner isn’t vegan, so whenever I’m buying food for him, I just so happen to pull it a bit too quick over the self-checkout scanner so I guess it doesn’t scan, oops 🥺
at the wm here, if you even look at the scanner cross-eyed, it sounds the alarms and halts the register until the babysitter can come over, review the footage and unlock it. if anything passes anywhere in the cameras’ very wide fov and a scan isn’t registered… anything… it stops.
they got sam’s club-like checkers at the exits, now, too. anything not in a bag gets ‘checked’… at least that’s what we’ve concluded is their criteria, based on when we have been stopped trying to leave.
me thinks they’ve had a slight uptick in ‘customer-applied discounts’ lately.
in the UK they weigh the baggage area and if you don’t scan something it’ll shout “UNEXPECTED ITEM IN THE BAGGAGE AREA” as loud as the mf beep and you get publicly shamed by all the whiter than white old people.
anyone who puts bags outside the weighing area gets looked at too, there’s no real way round without going for the old pockets
Interesting. Where are the weighs? Do you HAVE to out your bag on a special place?
I wonder we don’t have that yet too. But then again, overworked and understaffed. Noone cares if anything beeps or not. Even if the door-alarms go off, nothing happens. In no store, ever. It’s just that the vast majority of Germans are so obedient, they instantly stop, go to the next employee and explain themselves.
Certain grocery chains in Canada employ these types of self checkout scanners. Every item is weighed, your bags need to be on the scale from the start and there’s a camera over each checkout.
Yes you do have to put your bag in a special place. If you dont, and the item you scanned (which they already know much it weighs) wont add to the total weight of the scales and it won’t let you scan another item or pay.
It’s effectively impossible to accidentally steal something.
They beep so fucking loud here, this would not fly well with a cashier (or can) that watches well 😁
But we came up with different ways to do it over time. And yes, self checkout mostly, but we also do it at register if we have to. The most brazen one was a whole fucking door we drove by the cashier while my wife distracted him with questions and her charme 😁
We should not be proud of that, but we are. We probably wouldn’t even have noticed the price hikes. But I absolutely despise that they force you to pay more for things you can’t boycott. I can just not buy a car, but I can’t not buy food to protest. Fucking greed.
Sorry, a door?! That’s impressive.
Accountant: “How the fuck do we have shrinkage on a door!?”
Yeah, we still laugh about that. “How the fuck did we manage to loose a fucking door? Noone just goes out here with a door for fucks sake. Count again!” 😊
…while we paid for the hinges 😁 Sometime it’s really simple: if you just do it as if you’re allowed to do it, noone questions it. Like going right into spaces you’re not supposed to go, if you’re wearing something orange, a screwdriver or whatever else and just fucking go there as if you own the place.
The places I’ve been to without ever been questioned, including ceos offices or treasuries or…just because suit and laptop in hand. I was actually allowed but I was never ever questioned or stopped. Might be my nasty resting bitch face, I dunno 😁
Bluetooth speaker in your pocket and a beep sound on your partner’s phone.
might work, but that’s a bit of overkill. I prefer sleigh-of-hand or simply not scanning many things. People are already overworked and understaffed, noone’s gonna check anyway. The cameras are just scare-tactics too.
Are you Uncle Leo?
On a tangent, I just found out that Len Lesser was not only quite handsome in his younger years, he was also an extra in one of my favorite movies, the original “Papillon.”
I have no idea who uncle Leo is 😞
Jerry’s uncle. He stole stuff then if caught would say he was old and confused. Kinda like Trump.
Ok but who is Jerry
lol. Well I’m not old enough to go for the “confused”-route :)
Your local Kroger isn’t robbing you. Neither are their suppliers in general, but even so you are not punishing them by shoplifting. The store already paid the producer for it regardless of whether the item is sold or stolen, meaning they don’t care either way.
If you want to steal, that’s your prerogative, but don’t pretend that you’re morally justified to take out your frustrations on someone unrelated.
GROCERY STORES REACH INSANE AND UNPRECEDENTED PROFITS! CEO STATES ‘WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? STARVE? LOL SUCK IT PLEBS’
This guy - “GrOcErY sToReS arEn’T RobBinG U, HaVe U cOnsIdeRed tEh CeOs FeeLiNgs?”
Yeah they went from like 1-2% to like 5%… Which for a grocery store is insane and I precedented. Normal grocery stores have never been good profits. In 100 years they all basically barely break even
So to see them actually turn a profit is fucking unheard of
A few specialists grocery stores have better margins but it’s rare.
Whatever a “Kroger” might be, but luckily the world has morally intact people like you! And I’m not frustrated, it’s not about the money, it’s the principle. Someone in the chain did raise prices for items I can’t boycott, I don’t care who. Also I don’t need justification. To whom should I justity? to you? lol.
Kroger is a supermarket chain in much of the US, but some of their stores use different branding. I just meant it to be a recognizable example of somewhere you might get your groceries.
When I said frustrated, I meant in a general sense about the economy, as in higher grocery prices. But I guess I did misunderstand your motivation for this. So it’s not about how much suppliers/stores are actually charging, just that they raised prices at all? And you view that as stealing?
And I guess that’s the problem in my eyes. If you intend to punish someone, it should be focussed on whoever is responsible. I’m sure you would agree it is unreasonable to yell at a cashier when your card gets declined for example. I’m also skeptical that you can’t boycott, but without specifics I’ll have to take your word for it.
I judged you because you shared this with other people on the thread, which I view as inviting feedback. But you are right that my opinion isn’t important. What matters is that you can justify your actions to yourself. Whatever your morals are, I doubt it includes indiscriminate punishment. Maybe ask yourself things like, “What would it be like if everyone acted the way I do?” or “Will this lead to things getting better or worse?”.
Kroger is a grocery chain in the US that is attempting to monopolize grocery stores.
It is always moral and just to steal from Kroger.
Monopolize? Great. Should I ever visit the US (no I would not), I’d go there and steal a lot :)
The bad news is Kroger isn’t everywhere.
The good news is you don’t actually have to go to a Kroger.
You can go to any of: Bakers, City Market, Dillons, Food4Less, frys, Foods Co, Fred Myer, Gerber Market, Harris Market, Jay C, King Super, Mariano’s, Metro Market, PayLess, QFC, Ralphs, Ruler Foods, or Smith’s food and drug, and steal from them.
And if it’s not those is probably Safeway.
Not sure which is worse