Hey, From what I heard, the budget needs to be approved by a 60% majority in the Senate. This means that the Democrats can currently veto a budget. If this is extended without end, could they functionnaly disolve the federal government and maybe start a new union of Democratic states? Do taxes continue to be perceived? What happens legally if the shutdown lasts until the midterms? Can states form another Union without leaving the current Union?

This is mostly a legal question, because the Democrats are never going to agree to such thing, and because the Republican would then start a civil war to stop it.

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    Just for context, almost every federal court is a branch of a state court. State courts are still functioning. This is how a lot (not all) of the govt is.

    So yeah lots of workers furloughed but barely a single building unoccupied due to the shutdown.

    This is equally true of cybersecurity. For example, a non federal sysadmin may have privs to install, remove, maintain security software. That software is a private company and 24/7 SOC.

    Source: im a apart of your 24/7 SOC with lots of govt clients, many clients with both federal and state workers, etc. don’t worry. Our govt IT Infrastructure isnt protected by feds, it’s protected by firms like rapid7, Huntress, Crowd strike, Sentinel one, etc.

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      Just for context, almost every federal court is a branch of a state court.

      This is not true at all.

      Federal courts are part of the judicial branch, not the executive branch. So they don’t shut down when the executive branch “shuts down”, because the shutdown laws don’t apply to them. As a practical matter federal courts can keep running for a while using saved up court fee revenue. They will eventually run out of that money and gave some tough choices about what to do.

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        They operate under the exact same roof. Usually labeled as two separate addresses for tax purposes. It is exactly true.