Is this not the reason the second amendment exists? Regards An Australian Edit: I’m not advocating for violence. More so “a well regulated militia” which could be established by protesters or Democratic Governors for genuine self defence.

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    but just read the Wikipedia article about the Vietnam war

    Lmao.

    It was a bar fight between 3 brothers

    No it wasn’t. It was the Vietnamese fighting against the invaders and their comprador regime.

    Russia took over Germany, they invaded the land and took it by force that’s winning.

    Nuh uh! Who cares about land, Germany had a higher KDR, that means they won! KDRs are super important in determining who won or lost, that’s what I learned from you, that’s why you brought it up in the first place, isn’t it? Or were you just talking nonsense, coming up with excuses for why the US didn’t “really” lose?

    So in what ways can we analyze north Vietnam showing domination over the United States?

    They weren’t fighting over “domination over the United States,” dumbass, they were fighting over control of Vietnam. Which they got.

    I have no idea where this idea comes from that seems to be something exclusively American, that “defeat” means total, unconditional surrender and occupation, and anything short of that isn’t “really” a defeat. It’s so insane. Like, after the War of Spanish Succession, pretty sure all involved countries still existed afterwards, but one side got who they wanted on the Spanish throne and the other side didn’t, meaning, one side won and the other side lost. I guess according to you, the countries that dumped tons of blood and treasure and got nothing out of it “didn’t really lose” because they weren’t occupied. More realistically, you would say they lost, because they did lose and anyone can see it, and, and this is crucial, the US wasn’t involved so you’re not blinded by your chauvanism and propaganda, like you are with Vietnam.

    The absolute state of education in this country… zero understanding of anything, literally just reciting a bunch of memes and talking points designed to twist words around in order to defend the US’s “honor.” Americans are such a lost cause, how am I supposed to reason with this shit? Excuses after excuses after excuses, can’t back up even a single point.

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      Is chauvinism your sat word of the day because you also don’t know what that means either.

      I had a hope that you at least had the capacity for some rational thought but you clearly showed you don’t. So send your final edgy reply and then you can go back to covering your ears and shouting into the void

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        19 hours ago

        Lmao I’m the one with no capacity for rational thought? Defend anything you said this conversation. Any one thing:

        • The Vietnam War was “lost” in morale - Show me a war that was lost not on morale

        • Kill Death Ratios are important in determining who won or lost - explain how this applies when we look at WWII

        • Vietnam lost because they failed in their goal of spreading communism and didn’t occupy the US - show me how this applies to other wars, such as my random example of the War of Spanish Succession

        You can’t. You just move on seamlessly from one excuse to the next, zero thought put into anything you say, zero reason or evidence, just pure brainless talking points, probably just regurgitating what some coach passing for a history teacher told you.

        **Stand by one thing you said.*"