• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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      9 hours ago

      If Biden had dropped out earlier or decided not to run, absolutely.

      But there was no way to run a 50 state primary before the election with 100 days to go.

      Democrats would still be arguing over a venue at this point.

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        But there was no way to run a 50 state primary before the election with 100 days to go.

        I don’t buy that excuse. They didn’t want to. Every other country in the world can organise a full election in under 100 days.

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          The problem isn’t one election, the problem is running 50 individual elections, when certain states fight each other over who gets to go first.

          In 2020, the first primary was February 3rd and the final one wasn’t until August 11th. Six months. Just for the primary. 190 days.

          Harris had 107. AND still had to run a campaign for the general too. So, no. There was no time for a proper primary, not unless Biden dropped out in 2023.

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            The problem isn’t one election, the problem is running 50 individual elections

            Not attacking you personally, but again this smells like a bullshit excuse. More people voted in America idol than in the primary and they have no problem.

            Actually, I made that last statistic up, but it feels right. The point is that in 2025 there is no excuse.

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              Oh, more people DEFINITELY voted in American Idol. 😉 But US elections have more restrictions and security as well and protections against double voting and so on. You can’t vote by phone or online in a US election either, that’s illegal.

              So, 107 days to run both a primary in 50 states AND a general election.

              Candidates have to announce, prepare platforms, and debate. Ballots have to be printed and mailed for mail in voting states, after the election it can take a week to verify and certify. And THEN, whoever wins, still has to compete in the general election with zero time to prep, debate, etc. 107 days was not enough time.

              This is why I say, yes, if Biden dropped out in 2023, by all means, lets have a proper primary.

              At which point the DNC would have put their thumb on the scale as they did in 2020 and 2016 and we get Harris anyway.

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      Can only do that if Biden chose to step down; by the time Biden actually dropped out there wasn’t feasible time.

      This is why I easily blame Biden and his yes-men for about 80% of the loss or more.

      And in the end, it wasn’t a false dichotomy; it was binary when people opted to vote or not.

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          But there was a 2024 Democratic Primaries, and Biden won?

          Incumbents have a massive advantage by default, and it was very hard for anyone to challenge that. Biden had to commit to being a 1-term President and step down.

          I still blame Biden for 80% or more.