• orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
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    It’s going to be long and arduous. The US has such massive reach and influence that it’s going to take a long time before it topples. After that, we will probably be stuck in some Peter Thiel wet dream where he tells us Skynet was actually the protagonist and the Nazis had some good ideas.

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    @yogthos@lemmy.ml

    I like that quote that says “Something that we can learn from history books is that people can’t learn from history books”.

    What we’re seeing is people who do learn from history books being persecuted by those who don’t because the latter are against knowledge, they love the ignorance (as in, ignoring the reality around them; in their minds, “don’t see it = it doesn’t exist”).

    That’s why we’re “seeing the future repeating the past” (to quote a verse from Cazuza’s “O tempo não pára” song).

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      eu vejo o futuro repetir o passado, eu vejo um museu de grandes novidades

      i see the future repeat the past, i see a museum of great novelties

      personally, i think we are still stuck in the same rut as 100 years ago. that’s why it feels like the battles are the same. because they kind of are. cazuza may have had the right idea.

      we should just learn the lessons already, but it sometimes feels like we are worse than square one now.

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    Its already cooked. Play by play of Nazi Germany again. Education matters folks. Maybe countries and corporations shouldn’t be this powerful.

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        Yeah not a great look. Founded on genociding indeginous people. Nazis said “hey man nice shot!” and thats why Trump’s playbook is degraded because its a simulacrum of a simulacrum. Anyway, yeah USA bad since birth. Anyone who thinks otherwise has only been shown the tiny specks of silver lining.

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          The US, of course. Hitler praised the US and the Nazis modeled parts of their economy and politics on strategies the US had already employed on indigenous peoples and black Statesians.

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            Incredibly, German nazis found some of the US laws to be too extreme:

            Moyers: Bilbo said, “One drop of Negro blood placed in the veins of the purest Caucasian destroys the inventive genius of his mind and palsies his creative faculty.” Is it true that the Nazis thought the one-drop rule too extreme?

            Whitman: They did indeed. They never proposed anything nearly as extreme as the one-drop rule. In fact the standard, the most far-reaching Nazi definitions of who counted as a Jew, matched the least far-reaching ones to be found in the American states.

            https://billmoyers.com/story/hitler-america-nazi-race-law/

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              Yep, and Statesians regularly engage in indigenous genocide denial and minimize the atrocities of slavery to this day.

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    I was like half paying attention during our WW2 history lessons and the parallels between the USA today and the formation of Nazi Germany is clear as day. Whoever can’t see it was probably fast asleep during each class.

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      There’s people out there who genuinely only think it’s ok to call something fascism or genocide retrospectively when it’s achieved its goals.

      We can’t call it fascism yet because they aren’t literally killing gay people in camps yet.

      They won’t believe it because it isn’t an exact parallel replica of Nazi Germany because obviously. Everything is different, were 100 years in the future, it’s a different country.

      It’s illegal to extrapolate what’s going on and draw obvious parallels unless literally the exact same thing happens the same way.

      Please, if you believe otherwise tell me I’m wrong