• Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 days ago

    Bruh, what in the fuck?

    “But why?”

    Obviously it’s not actually about China.

    The conspiracy pipeline quickly leads to “opium production??”

    The MIC pipeline leads to “base for JSOC to operate out of?” (Not totally unrelated to opium… actually directly related)

    The dying brain of an 80 year old stuck in 1990 leads to “we can do anything! And I want that!”

    America and Israel are seriously begging for 100 9/11s with all the bullshit. They’re gonna have fucked over ex-Ukrainian army guys teaming up with Taliban to do shit. Just use a little common sense and little less full blown evil. Goddamn.

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      Yeah my mind very quickly makes the connection to JSOC and opium it’s not a conspiracy theory, it was just the primary thing the US was doing there.

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      It would also provide secretive logistics support for the CIA to move materiel to its Al Qaeda proxies/similar jihadist mercenaries, which they presumably want to start using against China again.

      I’m also assuming that in any practical terms “retaking” the base would mean cutting a deal with the Taliban and reopening it the same way the US keeps bases in allied or “neutral” countries. Get them to start growing poppies nearby too, and the US can “solve” the fentanyl problem by pouring CIA heroin into the market.

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        Are the Taliban going to allow that though? It’s my understanding, and maybe I’m wrong, that they take their stance against opium production in the country very seriously. Like when they came to power the first time they immediately shut all of that down. And they did it again when the US finally ran away.

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          Who knows? I assume they have a price they’d be willing to become collaborators for: for all that they’re all people who grew up under the terror of US occupation and spent their literal whole lives fighting against it, they’re also reactionaries and so cannot possibly have any real beliefs or convictions that aren’t up for sale for something. The US easing off sanctions and returning some seized assets (or just bribing some officials) might be all it takes to get a lease on the base and some under the table deal to start selling the CIA opium. That’s not say they necessarily would sell out like that, and they may have such justifiably bitter grudges against the US that their price to sell out is higher than the US is willing to pay, but considering the US brought ISIS and Al Qaeda back into the CIA’s fold it’s certainly not unthinkable for the Taliban to join them too.

          Like I can’t see the US managing it without active collaboration from the Taliban, because there’s just not the logistics capacity to invade Afghanistan again just to occupy a single region. They either get them to sell out and become compradors, or it just never happens and becomes something the odd reactionary talking head brings up wanting now and then at the most.

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      3 days ago

      It’s both. The US doesn’t often do single-dimension moves.

      The location is critical for surveillance.

      The location is critical for projecting air power into China.

      The location is critical for continued terrorism in Xinjiang.

      The location is critical to nuclear first strike potential.

      The location is great for producing opium/heroin/derivatives for money which can be used to prop up banks, black ops, and color revolutiona