• Deflated0ne@lemmy.world
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    The Expanse basically.

    Belters. Third class citizens seen as little more than slaves. Treated like garbage.

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      It is a little darker than that, as Belters can’t actually live on Earth due to their bones being crushed and broken by gravity.

      Not only are they slaves, they are very much trapped in space. Well, trapped if we’re avoiding spoilers.

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        This exact same phenomenon already happens in real life to astronauts though. So if space colonization were to occur in real life, this would totally happen in reality as well.

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        Is the bone thing a developmental issue or could someone still gradually adjust to it as an adult? Obviously that sort of time would be impossible to get as a belter, but just curious of the biology of it

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          If I’m not mistaken it is a developmental issue — wasn’t an O.P.A. agent tortured using the moons gravity? Or maybe they were in orbit, I’m not sure.

          I’m pretty sure it’s also a major problem later on with the new planets being found — Belters have it way more rough than both Earthers and Martians. Like, to the tune of ‘get me the fuck off this rock’ rough.

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            how far into the future is this set? is it possible medical science gets advanced enough to surgically implant a robot skeleton that can repair itself and grow with the person? if these belters make a universal healthcare system, they could have free cybernetic surgeries for masses of belters able to withstand surface gravity of planets. should i just watch it, is the expanse a good show?

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              According to a quick search (memory is foggy) it is set around 2350 — humans have colonized most of the solar system. They have fusion reactors and ships capable of traveling from Earth to the Jovian moons (I think? I’m not sure if they go further). There is definitely advanced medicine regarding surviving spaceflight (i.e. performing maneuvers that put you in otherwise unliveable circumstances without drugs).

              The circumstances of Earth, Mars and the Belt are delicate. Without spoiling too much, no the Belters do not have good health care.

              I like the Expanse, I was a fan of the books before the show. The show is good, some aspects are better than the books — but I haven’t actually finished the show itself. Give it a shot if you’re into hard science fiction!

              Edit: I should note, a baby born in the belt could be taken to Mars or Earth and they would grow up fine. The Belters themselves aren’t riddled with genetic diseases or anything like that, growing up in low g’s is just fucked.

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                currently rewatching the show firefly rn, but after i will start The expanse. ive seen other mentions of it around here on lemmy, and they always avoid revealing spoilers so i will too.

                so this is just a general question shooting off of your edit: i wonder what a baby born and grown in higher-than-earth g’s would be like?

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                  Well, in the books the physical differences between Earthers, Martians and Belters are very striking. Due to the lower gravity on Mars, and the even lower gravity on spinning asteroids in the belt; Earthers end up being much shorter than their counterparts with Belters looking very bizarre. I would imagine it would result in them being shorter, and if the gravity is high enough it could completely stunt the baby’s growth in a sort of inverse to what the Belters go through.