Kinda but not really. Charlie Kirk was the kind of grifter who doesn’t believe in much of anything, he will say whatever benefits him the most at any given moment. Right-wing audiences generally aren’t happy with how Trump is handling the Epstein stuff, and there’s a noticeable rift in right-wing influencers between those who tow the government line no matter what (Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Tim Pool) and those who say what their audience wants to hear (Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens). Outside of Epstein, this is also very noticeable when it comes to Israel.
Kirk got yelled at by his audience when he first tried to defend Trump from the latest Epstein news so he caved a little until, if I recall correctly, he got a direct phone call from Trump himself and fell back in line. I don’t think his personal beliefs factored in anywhere. There are right-wing influencers who genuinely believe what they say, but Kirk wasn’t one of them.
Ah yeah I was hoping it would add to the conspiracy if he was somewhat firm about pressing trump and turned hard after getting a (spooky) phone call/meeting and then they take him out anyway to send a message to the rest of the trumpfluencers
Yeah, I really don’t think the US government was behind this in any way. Kirk was a young and popular propagandist who was willing to say whatever the Trump admin or his fascist patrons wanted him to. He had a huge audience and was frequently hosting major conservative conferences. His death is imo a genuine loss for the American right wing, especially the brand of Christian nationalism he represented. If I was the Trump admin and wanted to kill a right-wing figure to rile up the base or whatever, I would pick a more expendable target.
Mossad? They’re rabid lunatics and capable of anything. I still don’t think they actually did it, but it’s not impossible. The US government? No way.
Is it true that Kirk was originally Trump-skeptical during the latest round of Epstein stuff before saying “actually I trust the government”?
Kinda but not really. Charlie Kirk was the kind of grifter who doesn’t believe in much of anything, he will say whatever benefits him the most at any given moment. Right-wing audiences generally aren’t happy with how Trump is handling the Epstein stuff, and there’s a noticeable rift in right-wing influencers between those who tow the government line no matter what (Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Tim Pool) and those who say what their audience wants to hear (Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens). Outside of Epstein, this is also very noticeable when it comes to Israel.
Kirk got yelled at by his audience when he first tried to defend Trump from the latest Epstein news so he caved a little until, if I recall correctly, he got a direct phone call from Trump himself and fell back in line. I don’t think his personal beliefs factored in anywhere. There are right-wing influencers who genuinely believe what they say, but Kirk wasn’t one of them.
minor correction
It’s toe the line—very common mistake!
good to know
Ah yeah I was hoping it would add to the conspiracy if he was somewhat firm about pressing trump and turned hard after getting a (spooky) phone call/meeting and then they take him out anyway to send a message to the rest of the trumpfluencers
What you said tracks though
Yeah, I really don’t think the US government was behind this in any way. Kirk was a young and popular propagandist who was willing to say whatever the Trump admin or his fascist patrons wanted him to. He had a huge audience and was frequently hosting major conservative conferences. His death is imo a genuine loss for the American right wing, especially the brand of Christian nationalism he represented. If I was the Trump admin and wanted to kill a right-wing figure to rile up the base or whatever, I would pick a more expendable target.
Mossad? They’re rabid lunatics and capable of anything. I still don’t think they actually did it, but it’s not impossible. The US government? No way.