This made me lol. You’re literally THE most terminally online power mod on Lemmy. You, of all people, advocating for dangerous or violent protests is highly ironic considering how the chances of you leaving the comfort of your house in general, let alone going to any protest, are slim to none.
Not advocating for dangerous and violent protests, as always I advocate AGAINST ineffective protests, and protests in blue states only serve one purpose… virtue signaling.
You want a protest to be effective? Take it to where it counts. Red states. D.C. Those are the minds you need to change, not your garden variety blue voters who already agree with you.
Oh, no violence, but the people who need to change their opinions aren’t in blue cities or blue states.
Unhappy with the Feds? Take it to DC and shut DC down for a month. Protesting in LA, SF, Portland, Seattle does nothing as everyone there is already on your side.
The people who need to see the protests don’t give two shits about what blue cities and states think.
Protesting in blue areas can achieve something, but only if it’s actually disruptive. For example you can force your elected officials to take a hardline approach to Trump rather than capitulate.
They can obstruct and/or oppose Trump in their own jurisdictions. There are options, everything from withholding federal taxes to enforcing state law on ICE (like Pritzker is threatening to do) to having local National Guard units defend immigrant neighborhoods. In the worst case scenario, forbid ICE from entering the state and shoot them if they do. At the very fucking least this shouldn’t be happening.
I live in a red state, and I plan to be at my local protest. But I take offense to the idea that protests in blue states are somehow too “safe” or not worth the time. The shit that has gone down at protests in Los Angeles should counter that notion pretty handily.
Honestly, the protests I’ve been to in my red state were way safer than the ones in LA, with way less push back from law enforcement. Probably helps that ICE isn’t operating in my city either.
Oh, no, I personally agree with it and I’d make it a rule if it weren’t already. We aren’t going to be liable for some jack off who wants to burn everything down.
Lemmy (.world) wouldn’t be liable. Lemmy wouldn’t be shut down. Nothing would happen. Also, the idea that a person who wants to fight back against fascism must want to burn everything down is very ignorant. People like you are the problem, people like you are the reason nothing ever gets beyond a “protest.” “Oh no, if we let them have an inch, they’re gonna burn the world down!!!”
Why? The users are here. And moderation on Lemmy is more annoyance than anything. It’s not like you can actually stop someone for more than a few minutes.
I tend to agree, protesting in blue cities and states is preaching to the choir and achieves nothing. Take that to DC or your closest red state.
Safe protesting is not protesting.
This made me lol. You’re literally THE most terminally online power mod on Lemmy. You, of all people, advocating for dangerous or violent protests is highly ironic considering how the chances of you leaving the comfort of your house in general, let alone going to any protest, are slim to none.
Not advocating for dangerous and violent protests, as always I advocate AGAINST ineffective protests, and protests in blue states only serve one purpose… virtue signaling.
You want a protest to be effective? Take it to where it counts. Red states. D.C. Those are the minds you need to change, not your garden variety blue voters who already agree with you.
I’ve been very happy with my blue politicians responses and if this encourages them I’m all for it.
Not sure what you’re expecting - violence can easily be counter-productive, especially in areas where police are sympathetic
Oh, no violence, but the people who need to change their opinions aren’t in blue cities or blue states.
Unhappy with the Feds? Take it to DC and shut DC down for a month. Protesting in LA, SF, Portland, Seattle does nothing as everyone there is already on your side.
The people who need to see the protests don’t give two shits about what blue cities and states think.
Protesting in blue areas can achieve something, but only if it’s actually disruptive. For example you can force your elected officials to take a hardline approach to Trump rather than capitulate.
Local officials have no power over Trump, and Democratic Congressmen and Senators have no power over Trump due to being in the minority.
So you’re protesting people who a) agree with you and b) can literally do nothing.
So, again, protesting in blue cities and states is entirely performative. “At least I did something!”
They can obstruct and/or oppose Trump in their own jurisdictions. There are options, everything from withholding federal taxes to enforcing state law on ICE (like Pritzker is threatening to do) to having local National Guard units defend immigrant neighborhoods. In the worst case scenario, forbid ICE from entering the state and shoot them if they do. At the very fucking least this shouldn’t be happening.
I live in a red state, and I plan to be at my local protest. But I take offense to the idea that protests in blue states are somehow too “safe” or not worth the time. The shit that has gone down at protests in Los Angeles should counter that notion pretty handily.
Honestly, the protests I’ve been to in my red state were way safer than the ones in LA, with way less push back from law enforcement. Probably helps that ICE isn’t operating in my city either.
Says the mod who has no problem shutting down all talk of anything beyond peaceful protesting.
Just doing your job, lol.
You are not going to use our platform to organize violence. That isn’t my rule, it’s instance rules.
Just a cog in the machine, eh? Just the middle man.
Oh, no, I personally agree with it and I’d make it a rule if it weren’t already. We aren’t going to be liable for some jack off who wants to burn everything down.
Lemmy (.world) wouldn’t be liable. Lemmy wouldn’t be shut down. Nothing would happen. Also, the idea that a person who wants to fight back against fascism must want to burn everything down is very ignorant. People like you are the problem, people like you are the reason nothing ever gets beyond a “protest.” “Oh no, if we let them have an inch, they’re gonna burn the world down!!!”
Screw you, Jordan Lund.
The comments/posts removed were inciting violence and that is 100% not allowed. Don’t like it? Go make your own platform.
Why? The users are here. And moderation on Lemmy is more annoyance than anything. It’s not like you can actually stop someone for more than a few minutes.
So put up and roll your own instance instead of leeching off others.
Lol, bold words from someone apparently unwilling to host that content themselves.
Let’s see: @Illecors@lemmy.cafe – are you fine with users using your instance to organize violence?
No, I’m not
@whiwake@lemmy.cafe look at that, the person you’re leeching off of has the same rules.
Are you gonna roll your own server yet, or keep being all talk, no action?
lol, I see what you’re doing. Clever.
What am I doing?
Yeah, no one should stick their necks out. Fall in line and everything will be okay.
Oh look another mouthy user who’s happy to put the risk on their admin instead of taking it themselves.
Big words.