About 10 per year but those are usually accidental crazy amounts. More talking about the stress on your heart. Adds up if your drinking this shit like crazy
you specifically made a claim around long term heart health. i didn’t find a very definite conclusion on that, and you haven’t produced one.
recommended doseages are just as much (arguably more) about short-term effects, i don’t know why you’d assume they’re predictive of long term health outcomes unless this is clearly documented somewhere.
for all i know the recommended dose for caffeine is designed around when 50% of test subjects get jittery
I’ve never seen any evidence of cumulative heart damage from excessive caffeine useage.
It can, in conjunction with other things, bring you into problem territory. Like if you have a heart problem, or go exercise, you can induce tachycardia or worst case a heart attack.
But if long term caffeine usage causes heart damage the effect is drowned out by more significant factors like not doing exercise or not eating a plant based diet.
While it seems you typically grow a partial tolerance with constant caffeine consumption which avoids the blood pressure spike ie with moderate caffeine consumption. Anything higher you start to get into moderate overdose territory which can bring back blood pressure spiking and other symptoms.
I’m sure sugar is doing most of the damage but caffeine is contributing as well.
I just want to emphasize that I don’t think caffeine is evil or nothing just that you probably shouldn’t be drinking 600-800 mgs of it
here’s the meta analysis that decided 400mg. they also found studies drawing a link but also many that didn’t. it’s by no means a closed question, and i suspect that even if it started to lean towards danger, it would be way less of a risk than other common products (cured meat)
I just want to emphasize that I don’t think caffeine is evil or nothing
i don’t think it’s good, it personally has a vendetta against me. but i don’t think western governments should be expanding surveillance against kids, especially governments who are on the other hand starving them with cuts to food assistance
No, I wouldn’t think so - it’s quite hard to design a robust study around that though
If there were proper controls on sweetening packaged drinks you’d expect total consumption to decrease significantly - the level of sugar or sugar substitutes is only palatable because people’s tastes have adapted in a way that would rarely, if ever, occur if people just had access to a spoon and a bag of sugar
There’s like a hundred years of food science devoted to figuring out how to maximise sugar and fat in products without making them taste disgusting
One monster is 150 mg and the daily recommended limit or w/e they call it is like 350 i think so you could have like 2 and a small redbull before you start entering unadvisable territory
i went through like a two week phase with various caffeinated drinks recently and was really surprised by how hard it was to find the dose of caffeine i was consuming. maybe im stupid but it took me >30s for most of them. people should never be taking any drug without knowing the exact dose, prominently displaying it should be legally required and also just common sense. (maybe a small part of the problem though)
I see so many freaks down like 3-4 of these a day. Schools honestly need to create some curriculum for health Ed about acceptable caffeine limits
It’s never been so easy to slowly kill yourself lmao
how many people are dying of cafeine
About 10 per year but those are usually accidental crazy amounts. More talking about the stress on your heart. Adds up if your drinking this shit like crazy
Can’t die to caffeine if something else gets ya first. Checkmate. sips energy drink
does it add up though
Yeah your right drinking more then the recommended caffeine limit frequently has no adverse health effects
Sorry I’m a dumbass
you specifically made a claim around long term heart health. i didn’t find a very definite conclusion on that, and you haven’t produced one.
recommended doseages are just as much (arguably more) about short-term effects, i don’t know why you’d assume they’re predictive of long term health outcomes unless this is clearly documented somewhere.
for all i know the recommended dose for caffeine is designed around when 50% of test subjects get jittery
I’ve never seen any evidence of cumulative heart damage from excessive caffeine useage.
It can, in conjunction with other things, bring you into problem territory. Like if you have a heart problem, or go exercise, you can induce tachycardia or worst case a heart attack.
But if long term caffeine usage causes heart damage the effect is drowned out by more significant factors like not doing exercise or not eating a plant based diet.
If youre constantly raising your blood pressure to high levels overtime your heart has to work more.
Your heart doesn’t just tank a super dose of caffeine forever with out it wearing down
https://www.acc.org/Latest-in-Cardiology/Articles/2024/08/14/16/39/Chronic-High-Caffeine-Consumption-Impacts-Heart-Rate-BP (feel free to tear this study apart I’m a dumb American so I don’t know what’s good research or not)
While it seems you typically grow a partial tolerance with constant caffeine consumption which avoids the blood pressure spike ie with moderate caffeine consumption. Anything higher you start to get into moderate overdose territory which can bring back blood pressure spiking and other symptoms.
I’m sure sugar is doing most of the damage but caffeine is contributing as well.
I just want to emphasize that I don’t think caffeine is evil or nothing just that you probably shouldn’t be drinking 600-800 mgs of it
here’s the meta analysis that decided 400mg. they also found studies drawing a link but also many that didn’t. it’s by no means a closed question, and i suspect that even if it started to lean towards danger, it would be way less of a risk than other common products (cured meat)
i don’t think it’s good, it personally has a vendetta against me. but i don’t think western governments should be expanding surveillance against kids, especially governments who are on the other hand starving them with cuts to food assistance
This study shows that exercising when full of caffeine (like 10x a cup of coffee) your heartrate takes a bit longer to go back to normal.
Which isn’t good, but a bit of a nothingburger.
If concerned about heart health exercise for around 1.5 hours each week vigourously, avoid alcohol, avoid meat, and avoid stress.
“slowly kill yourself” obviously means damage to the body, which is well supported, e.g.
Adolescents with high caffeine intake have ~67% more sleep problems.
Energy drinks in adolescents are correlated with anxiety, stress, depression and suicidality
These drinks have like 25-50 grams of sugar per serve. Caffeine might not kill ya but diabetes sure can.
They make sugar free energy drinks
Sugar substitutes still fuck up the insulin response over the long term, unfortunately
Worse than soda (Which they can buy)?
No, I wouldn’t think so - it’s quite hard to design a robust study around that though
If there were proper controls on sweetening packaged drinks you’d expect total consumption to decrease significantly - the level of sugar or sugar substitutes is only palatable because people’s tastes have adapted in a way that would rarely, if ever, occur if people just had access to a spoon and a bag of sugar
There’s like a hundred years of food science devoted to figuring out how to maximise sugar and fat in products without making them taste disgusting
then surely it’d be a ban on sugar beverages, not ‘energy drinks’
One monster is 150 mg and the daily recommended limit or w/e they call it is like 350 i think so you could have like 2 and a small redbull before you start entering unadvisable territory
this is not health advice
150+150 = 300 red bull only has 50mg? somebody is getting scammed
i mean redbull has like 80 but hey whats another 30 mg over the limit surely it cant hurt
My friend in high school almost had a heart attack because he drank too many. But then he just kept drinking like it’s nothing
i went through like a two week phase with various caffeinated drinks recently and was really surprised by how hard it was to find the dose of caffeine i was consuming. maybe im stupid but it took me >30s for most of them. people should never be taking any drug without knowing the exact dose, prominently displaying it should be legally required and also just common sense. (maybe a small part of the problem though)
here it’s just on the can