you specifically made a claim around long term heart health. i didn’t find a very definite conclusion on that, and you haven’t produced one.
recommended doseages are just as much (arguably more) about short-term effects, i don’t know why you’d assume they’re predictive of long term health outcomes unless this is clearly documented somewhere.
for all i know the recommended dose for caffeine is designed around when 50% of test subjects get jittery
I’ve never seen any evidence of cumulative heart damage from excessive caffeine useage.
It can, in conjunction with other things, bring you into problem territory. Like if you have a heart problem, or go exercise, you can induce tachycardia or worst case a heart attack.
But if long term caffeine usage causes heart damage the effect is drowned out by more significant factors like not doing exercise or not eating a plant based diet.
While it seems you typically grow a partial tolerance with constant caffeine consumption which avoids the blood pressure spike ie with moderate caffeine consumption. Anything higher you start to get into moderate overdose territory which can bring back blood pressure spiking and other symptoms.
I’m sure sugar is doing most of the damage but caffeine is contributing as well.
I just want to emphasize that I don’t think caffeine is evil or nothing just that you probably shouldn’t be drinking 600-800 mgs of it
here’s the meta analysis that decided 400mg. they also found studies drawing a link but also many that didn’t. it’s by no means a closed question, and i suspect that even if it started to lean towards danger, it would be way less of a risk than other common products (cured meat)
I just want to emphasize that I don’t think caffeine is evil or nothing
i don’t think it’s good, it personally has a vendetta against me. but i don’t think western governments should be expanding surveillance against kids, especially governments who are on the other hand starving them with cuts to food assistance
Yeah your right drinking more then the recommended caffeine limit frequently has no adverse health effects
Sorry I’m a dumbass
you specifically made a claim around long term heart health. i didn’t find a very definite conclusion on that, and you haven’t produced one.
recommended doseages are just as much (arguably more) about short-term effects, i don’t know why you’d assume they’re predictive of long term health outcomes unless this is clearly documented somewhere.
for all i know the recommended dose for caffeine is designed around when 50% of test subjects get jittery
I’ve never seen any evidence of cumulative heart damage from excessive caffeine useage.
It can, in conjunction with other things, bring you into problem territory. Like if you have a heart problem, or go exercise, you can induce tachycardia or worst case a heart attack.
But if long term caffeine usage causes heart damage the effect is drowned out by more significant factors like not doing exercise or not eating a plant based diet.
If youre constantly raising your blood pressure to high levels overtime your heart has to work more.
Your heart doesn’t just tank a super dose of caffeine forever with out it wearing down
https://www.acc.org/Latest-in-Cardiology/Articles/2024/08/14/16/39/Chronic-High-Caffeine-Consumption-Impacts-Heart-Rate-BP (feel free to tear this study apart I’m a dumb American so I don’t know what’s good research or not)
While it seems you typically grow a partial tolerance with constant caffeine consumption which avoids the blood pressure spike ie with moderate caffeine consumption. Anything higher you start to get into moderate overdose territory which can bring back blood pressure spiking and other symptoms.
I’m sure sugar is doing most of the damage but caffeine is contributing as well.
I just want to emphasize that I don’t think caffeine is evil or nothing just that you probably shouldn’t be drinking 600-800 mgs of it
here’s the meta analysis that decided 400mg. they also found studies drawing a link but also many that didn’t. it’s by no means a closed question, and i suspect that even if it started to lean towards danger, it would be way less of a risk than other common products (cured meat)
i don’t think it’s good, it personally has a vendetta against me. but i don’t think western governments should be expanding surveillance against kids, especially governments who are on the other hand starving them with cuts to food assistance
This study shows that exercising when full of caffeine (like 10x a cup of coffee) your heartrate takes a bit longer to go back to normal.
Which isn’t good, but a bit of a nothingburger.
If concerned about heart health exercise for around 1.5 hours each week vigourously, avoid alcohol, avoid meat, and avoid stress.