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A live-stream broadcast of China’s military parade has captured Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin discussing biotechnology’s potential to extend life.
An interpreter translating Mr Putin can be heard saying in Mandarin that human organ transplants could let “us live younger and younger, and perhaps even achieve immortality”.
Mr Xi responded that it may be possible for people to live to 150 years this century.
Apart from the fact that your brain ages too and it’s 100% irreplaceable, the main issue with turning yourself into the human Ship of Theseus is that you’re going to be on immunosuppressant drugs forever.
I guess if you were a monster you could raise clones of yourself to adulthood and then murder them for their body parts. This doesn’t solve the problem of some parts not being reasonably replaceable, but it could protect you from some organ failures.
Braincells are irreplaceable (barring some experimental stem cell work) but the networks between those brain cells keep growing and intertwining. It’s the network between the cells that defines your mental aptitude. Plenty of stories about people with severe brain damage who still continue to function comparatively normally after a period of recovery and rehabilitation. The human brain is remarkably plastic.
Even that isn’t strictly practical. The failure rate on cloning is enormous. What’s legit more monstrous than killing someone for organs is producing all of the failed clones necessary to land on a copy that’s viable.
Dolly the Sheep was a “successful” clone, and even it didn’t live a particularly long or happy life, being euthanized at half the normal age of a domesticated sheep of her breed due to arthritis and lung disease.
No doubt someone is out there doing human cloning illegally. But I would not bank on it as a viable alternative to simply getting bumped up the organ donor list the old fashioned way.
I think if ALL, literally ALL of your other organs were functioning great, then it is unlikely your brain will deterioriate by itself randomly. Your body is constantly repairing itself, that’s why we are able to live so long.
But like, are they REALLY going to transplant things like the thymus? Can they even do that? Adrenal glands, parathyroid glands, thyroid, kidneys, livers, pancreas - idk man, I do not see these people getting all these organs replaced. That is an INSANE bodily experiment that has never truly been tested, let alone with lab grown organs (as Xi or Putin suggested), let alone in elderly and delicate subjects. We can’t even pull off natural looking facelifts in most subjects.
Adding in organs with different ages and donors also means they also may have increased loads on their remaining old aged organs too. Everything works together and donor organs can have a different circadian rhythm, let alone different genes which means different reactions to stimuli. Not to mention currently the most likely situation for organ transplant would be gene editing animal organs - again, experimental and never done on multiple organs. https://hms.harvard.edu/news/first-genetically-edited-pig-kidney-transplanted-human
Like managing multiple organ rejections in a 90yr old seeking immortality sounds like a joke of a case for any health care provider.
But please, someone convince both those men to get multiple organs transplanted ASAP
There are current studies about growing entire organs in a lab environment using 3D printed scaffolding and stem cells harvested from the patient, so the final product is 100% compatible and eliminates the need for immunosuppressants.
Still a few decades out for human testing imo but they’d be the first in line.
If we figure that out, artificial blood (which is already making good progress) and finally a way to regenerate brain cells without causing massive brain tumors we can extend life considerably, probably closer to 200 years on extreme cases.
Or, at least, making it to 110 while still having a good quality of life, basically making 100 the new 60.
Lol, lmfao
They can’t even give us a relatively nontoxic living environment and adaptive and responsive nutrition plans
Not to mention there has NEVER been a patient who has had MULTIPLE 3D printed organ transplants, let alone continuous transplants PRN (the suture sites are going to be dissolving scar tissue). And that 3D printed organs are extremely complicated especially depending on which one is being built, with their own cellular memory including circadian rhythm and local homeostasis.
Not to mention that merely transplanting an organ does not mean the patient will have adequate neurochemicals or enzymes or receptors to carry out the processes needed to support these organs, regardless of supplementation
Like certain conditions, at end of life, oppose each other especially in treatment. Eg congestive heart failure, pulmonary edema, and kidney failure all interfere and interact with each other. Assuming you could successfully perform a lung, heart, and kidney transplant in a geriatric patient, whose to say their veings, connective tissue, ureters, etc won’t prolapse or blow out from all the pressure and new stressers?
This shit isn’t as easy as they want to claim (maybe they want to taunt Trump with immortality), but if they want to be the guinea pigs for it, let them ig - that’s the most ethical thing they could do with this, is experiment on themselves and take the consequences.
Except that these psychos are definitely going to harvest organs from the so-called lesser races within their borders.
And then what, that’s even LESS likely to work out compared to 3D orinted organs or animal organs that have been gene edited. That’s what I’m saying, this is a pipe dream, they cannot harvest/transplant MULTIPLE organs with random people’s genes in them, place them in someone’s body and have it work out like replacing car parts. Multiple organ transplants like that are just not really done because of how many variables and issues come from each transplant. They can try to Frankenstein themselves as much as they want, but like all fascist delusional “science,” it is genuinely idiotic and done stupidly and badly.
Well, you suggested to let them do it. I’m suggesting that they will not hesitate to commit massive human rights violating, nonconsensual nazi experiments, so no we shouldn’t allow them.
The fact that it absolutely won’t work is secondary.
I’m not granting permission, I’m saying if we follow their logic and methods to its natural conclusions, they will die, eg giving a proof.
They cannot use other human organs, this is already a roadblock for them. If they could, they already would be doing so (see blood transfusions). I was talking about 3D printed organs, not organs from others.
You brought up organs from others. I then explained it is even MORE of an issue to attempt to transplant (hence why we developed other means). Your refusal to understand that does not mean you are correct that they will do this. You’re in fact wrong.
However, perhaps they want to eat these organs instead of transplant them, I’m not saying they won’t go after human bodies for various reasons, and obviously all genocide should be stopped.
But they aren’t going to do multiple organ transplants from other human to human donors in our lifetimes, if ever. If you understood transplants, you’d understand why that just isn’t a thing and won’t be a thing.
It’s as stupid as head transplants and Neuralink.
You want to go to the Island.
Was just about to say, “wasn’t this the plot of what I thought was a shitty scarjo flick from 10+ years ago”?
Ever read House of the Scorpion? It predicted this exact situation yeaaaaars ago, good read too