• shiroininja@lemmy.world
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    Small issues . Lmao ok. Tell me what the the villages are like in rural China. Have the collective welfare trickled down to them yet?

    And open access to information via the internet and open speech are one of the main pillars of a successful society, and neither states have that. Who cares if you’re my comrade of I can’t speak against you if need be or have the ability to refute your information with research.

    China has one of the fastest growing numbers of millionaires in the world yet its farmers and factory workers are still poor as shit, how’s that collectivism? It’s just state capitalism

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      The gap between rural and urban development has long been acknowledged and is already something worked on. The famous poverty eraducation campaign was focused on just that. Read The Metamorphosis of Yuangudui to see what that looks like in practice.

      Secondly, the speech of capitalists and western media is restricted, but citizens speak to each other freely. The purpose of the control on western and capitalist propaganda is to develop independence and not let the west set the narrative.

      Lastly, purchasing Power in 2022 was 25 times higher than 1978. This process is continuous. Further, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned, it’s a socialist country. You need to turn off Fox News and actually look at what’s happening in China right now.

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        citizens speak to each other freely

        Can citizens investigate their government and publish and distribute criticisms of their government?

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          Depends, are they capitalists trying to undermine the system, or are they genuinely in support of socialism? If the former, no, if the latter, probably, though again if your other comments are anything to go by you just want liberalism to take over China.

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      This is a tier 4 city in China. Which is far down the development ladder and considered poor.

      https://youtu.be/kZon-AlmJbM

      The vast majority of Chinese live in cities like this or better. Saying that there are still poor villages, well I give you this

      https://youtu.be/fI30F0Vt88E

      Kensington Philadelphia is so drug infested people walk around like zombies. Does China have poor areas like that? Actually no, even the poorest villages aren’t that bad.