• BussyCat@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    You are comparing the evolution of language from hundreds of years to a group of people mispronouncing a word since it’s usually seen written from only a a few decades ago

    The format came out in 1987 and the creator has on multiple occasions said that the correct way to pronounce it is with a soft g

    If in 2187 if the whole world starts saying it with a hard g you can pretend that’s correct and comparable to an evolution of the human language but considering the founder is still alive and calling it gif and your argument boils down to “the person who created it is saying it wrong” then it’s not comparable to the change in spelling of island…

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      2 days ago

      You are comparing the evolution of language from hundreds of years

      Nope. I am talking about how one person on one day did a specific thing and it caught on. Was “island” not acceptable when written that way and only acceptable exactly 100 years after they did that?

      If in 2187 if the whole world starts saying it with a hard g you can pretend that’s correct and comparable to an evolution of the human language

      Okay, so exactly how long does a word have to be used a specific way before people shut the fuck up about it?

      This is another case of “my exact usage of language is correct. Anything from before I was born is incorrect, and no further changes can be tolerated until I am dead.”

      • BussyCat@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        The day a person wrote island they were wrong. If they tried to insist to everyone else that they were right and the dictionaries are wrong they would be called an idiot. If they tried to insist to everyone that they came up with an alternate spelling to align with the Latin roots that’s a different story.

        Now considering this is an arbitrary name that someone made up to specifically call it gif like the peanut butter brand… I would say they get at least a few decades of them being correct

        You can say it with a hard g as much as you want but to claim you are correct is another story

        • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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          If they tried to insist to everyone that they came up with an alternate spelling to align with the Latin roots that’s a different story.

          But the English word for Island does not have any Latin roots, so it’s even dumber.
          I agree that the person who first put an ‘s’ in ‘Island’ was an idiot. I think it’s idiotic that that is now the correct spelling. But at some point the ‘s’ in ‘island’ went from stupid to correct and it would be even dumber for me to try to fight against it.

          My point is that it wasn’t a factor of time that made ‘island’ the correct spelling, it was simply a factor of common usage. Language is defined by how it is used and understood. If people pronouce it gif and are understood then that is the correct pronunciation. Arguing against that is a waste of time, and it’s also admitting that the pronouciation you prefer is not the one commonly used and understood.