Greed as in people that abondon all morals for material and money.

If someone is both they will continue to live with only one of those.

Just curious what leftists target more.

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    Tf, ideology is always base

    Move onto socialism and communism

    Is this base or superficial or hypocrisy?

    Sure, Artha influence all those “superficial”, but ideology is always base.

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      12 hours ago

      Ideology is superstructure, not base. The ideology of capitalism, for example, is largely liberalism, which justifies it.

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        10 hours ago

        Either I fail to understand you or You are word playing, your conclusion about questions like, capitalism being bad or good is your ideology. Without ideology as base, you don’t know how to use resources(including efforts, time) based on which values.

        Taking into account that you are communist & common thing i heard about communist is they want to remove all classes. Criticism to that is there are natural classes, stupid & wise, brave & coward, old & young and natural instincts like greed, fear. These will naturally demand more share for their higher abilities. With time, there will be classes again.

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          Capitalism is a mode of production, so is socialism and communism. These are real, material things, and form the base structure of society. Ideology is how we interpret these things, we don’t decide them based on ideology. Ideology is a reinforcing aspect of the superstructure that justifies the mode of production, but it arises from material conditions.

          In other words, the way we interact with production shapes our experiences, and thus the way we think and act, not the other way around.

          As for class, you’re extending its meaning beyond its intent. It refers to relations to production and distribution, communism fully acknowledges the differences in people’s abilities, wants, and needs. A classless society is one in which all production has been sublimated into collectivized and planned production with equal ownership, ie one economy collectively run and planned.